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Right Side Brakes

Postby PoconoCub » Fri May 19, 2017 8:56 am

I don't know if it the heat or my MS but I am getting frustrated trying to figure out the correct orientation for the right brake.

Which way should the Toggle be facing the smaller side towards the final?

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or the large side toward the final?

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and which way should the brake band be?

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Re: Right Side Brakes

Postby Chipmaker » Fri May 19, 2017 9:10 am

Internet find.
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Re: Right Side Brakes

Postby PoconoCub » Fri May 19, 2017 9:45 am

Chipmaker wrote:Internet find.


I believe that is the left side with the short shaft, I am trying to put together the right side with the long shaft. The onlything I have found on the right side was a video from Steiner and they really do not show anything up close.
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Re: Right Side Brakes

Postby Chipmaker » Fri May 19, 2017 9:51 am

Straight from Case IH website. Looks like long side faces final.
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Re: Right Side Brakes

Postby PoconoCub » Fri May 19, 2017 10:14 am

Chipmaker wrote:Straight from Case IH website. Looks like long side faces final.


Thanks for your help, turns out I did have it in right but my brain was telling me it was wrong so I took it all apart again for nothing :(
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Re: Right Side Brakes

Postby Chipmaker » Fri May 19, 2017 10:20 am

Your welcome. At least now you know it's right.
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Re: Right Side Brakes

Postby Chipmaker » Fri May 19, 2017 10:22 am

For you or anyone else wanting to look at Cub or any Case IH parts diagrams here's where I look at them. On the left side type in "Cub" and it will find all related parts to a Cub then go from there. http://www.messicks.com/vendor/case
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Re: Right Side Brakes

Postby PoconoCub » Fri May 19, 2017 10:29 am

Chipmaker wrote:For you or anyone else wanting to look at Cub or any Case IH parts diagrams here's where I look at them. On the left side type in "Cub" and it will find all related parts to a Cub then go from there. http://www.messicks.com/vendor/case


I have the parts diagrams that wasn't the problem, my MS brain was working backasswards thinking when the brake pedal was depressed that the rod was supposed to push in which it doesn't it pulls out. I should not work outside when it gets over 75F because that is when the MS brain kicks in :( Now to finish sanding the pedals and fender so I can get them painted in the shade.
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Re: Right Side Brakes

Postby Glen » Fri May 19, 2017 5:14 pm

Hi,
Sorry to disagree, but on my Cub the long side of the spacer faces toward the transmission, on both sides, right and left.
It looks like in Chipmaker's internet pic that putting the long side toward the final drive is making the brake lining off the edge of the brake drum.
The long side of the spacer has to face the right way so the brake band will be in the right place on the drum.
Here is a pic from TM Tractor.
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Re: Right Side Brakes

Postby Chipmaker » Fri May 19, 2017 6:01 pm

Glen wrote:Hi,
Sorry to disagree, but on my Cub the long side of the spacer faces toward the transmission, on both sides, right and left.
It looks like in Chipmaker's internet pic that putting the long side toward the final drive is making the brake lining off the edge of the brake drum.
The long side of the spacer has to face the right way so the brake band will be in the right place on the drum.
Here is a pic from TM Tractor.

Niether of ours has toggle brakes so I don't know which way is right. I would think the pic from IH is correct though.
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Re: Right Side Brakes

Postby Glen » Fri May 19, 2017 8:14 pm

Hi,
Chipmaker,
I would usually agree that the Case IH pics are right. Look at the pic you posted at 7:51 am, it is not a Farmall Cub, look at the linkage at the front, it should look like on your Cubs.
Maybe Jim B. or an expert will comment on this.
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Re: Right Side Brakes

Postby Chipmaker » Fri May 19, 2017 8:27 pm

It's a 154, do they not use the same toggle style brakes?
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Re: Right Side Brakes

Postby tst » Sun May 21, 2017 10:18 pm

Glenn is correct the toggle spacer faces the transmission case,if you install the toggle in the other direction the brake band would not center on the drum, the brake band the "long" side is on the bottom
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Re: Right Side Brakes

Postby Chipmaker » Mon May 22, 2017 6:25 am

tst wrote:Glenn is correct the toggle spacer faces the transmission case,if you install the toggle in the other direction the brake band would not center on the drum, the brake band the "long" side is on the bottom
Tim

Thanks for clarifying this Tim, I apologize for misleading the original poster :(
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