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Army Farmalls

Postby w30bob » Mon Apr 16, 2018 7:43 pm

Hi Guys,

Has anyone ever seen an Olive Drab painted Farmall? Reason I ask is I have a bunch of military vehicles and it would be pretty cool to bring an OD painted Cub with an Army registration number on the hood sides to a military meet with my M37 or M38A1. But I don't know if the military ever used Farmalls post war, as I've never seen a pic of one. The military definitely used tractors, I've just never seen a Farmall. Guess I could paint one up and see what folks say, but I'd like there to be at least a possibility such a thing occurred.

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Re: Army Farmalls

Postby Jim Becker » Mon Apr 16, 2018 7:55 pm

Earlier discussion, very old so some links are now bad:

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Re: Army Farmalls

Postby Eugene » Mon Apr 16, 2018 9:04 pm

The farm tractor weren't usually painted in the military force owners base color until they needed repainting. They were initially left in the factory paint codes.

Have seen photos of VA hospital facilities where they taught disabled veterans farming. Some of the black and white photos had Farmall Cubs. The Cub's color appeared be factory red.
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Re: Army Farmalls

Postby Drfting1 » Tue Apr 17, 2018 3:15 pm

That would be a great project to do, I thought about maybe doing that... Go for it.. Would love to see how it it would come out, just have to think about semi gloss or flat, the flat would hold oil, fluid stains.. But I think it would look good and be original and one of a kind
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Re: Army Farmalls

Postby Lt.Mike » Wed Apr 18, 2018 9:07 am

If I remember correctly be it a Navy or Army issued tractor it would have that brass plaque as the military Jeeps had on the dash. Finding that on a cub or A (probably a IA) would be like finding gold. These tractors are rolling history as it is but to find one issued to the military...WOW!
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On color I believe Navy were yellow and I’ve seen that classic drab blue they had in the day.
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Re: Army Farmalls

Postby Eugene » Wed Apr 18, 2018 2:00 pm

The farm tractors I've seen on Army and Air Force bases were with wide front ends and larger than Farmall Cubs. Most were Fergusons.

Army bases and air fields and air force bases and air fields covered thousands of acres.
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Re: Army Farmalls

Postby w30bob » Wed Apr 18, 2018 2:13 pm

Hi Guys,

Yeah, I'm thinking an Olive Drab Cub would be pretty cool. Add some hood registration numbers and a few white stars and it would really get people's attention. One of my M37's is an Air Force truck, so a Strata Blue Cub would also be pretty neat. All the post-war Navy vehicles I've seen were a gloss gray....not that attractive, but also different. I'll go to the auction again in the Fall and see if I can pick up a Cub for cheap. The Cub that sold right next to mine went for $300 and the other one a little down the row sold for $600. I'm told in the Fall prices are lower as folks don't want to store them over the winter. So if I can get one for cheap you may be seeing a dark green one on here one day soon.

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Re: Army Farmalls

Postby Shane Nelson » Thu Apr 19, 2018 6:26 am

We have an old U.S. Navy air compressor tractor and it's vomit yellow. It has a 6 cylinder engine, the front 3 run the tractor and the back 3 are air compressor. It's 160 CFM. Yes, one hundred sixty. It will move some air. I've been told they used them to spin air impellers to crank jets. I don't know for sure though. This one, I don't know what engine it is but from the bellhousing back is a IH 140. The trans, finals, axles, wheels etc all IH.
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Re: Army Farmalls

Postby AL Farmall Boy » Thu Apr 19, 2018 4:06 pm

Woah!~how cool
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Re: Army Farmalls

Postby w30bob » Fri Apr 20, 2018 8:55 pm

Yeah, it takes a lot of air to start a turbojet. Turboshaft engines typically use another smaller turbine engine to get things spinning up to speed thru the gearbox. Navy shipboard support equipment was usually yellow for visibility reasons. Army and Air Force equipment didn't all use brass placards…….many were aluminum with acid etched areas painted black. Later replacement placards were usually aluminum silkscreened with back writing……..but the Navy needed brass.

Now that compressor would make sandblasting incredibly quick, but drying all that air would be tough. But that CFM is mighty impressive!!! What is the engine driving that does the compressing? Is it an axial fan or a piston?

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Re: Army Farmalls

Postby Indy4570 » Sun Apr 22, 2018 4:54 pm

Shane that is one cool tractor, I did some research after seeing you mention your family owned one, so many variants, its good to see yours!
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Re: Army Farmalls

Postby Urbish » Mon Apr 23, 2018 7:48 am

w30bob wrote:...What is the engine driving that does the compressing? Is it an axial fan or a piston?

regards,
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Look closely and you'll see that the engine has six cylinders, but only the forward three are used as the engine, and the rearward three are on compressor duty.

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Re: Army Farmalls

Postby Shane Nelson » Mon Apr 23, 2018 8:05 am

Urbish wrote:
w30bob wrote:...What is the engine driving that does the compressing? Is it an axial fan or a piston?

regards,
bob


Look closely and you'll see that the engine has six cylinders, but only the forward three are used as the engine, and the rearward three are on compressor duty.

This is correct. There is a lever on the dash that says "compressor, tractor or both" and it somehow uses the oil pressure to turn the compressor on or off. Here's a picture of the lever and also have a tow behind unit that has the same engine and the serial #'s are within 500 of each other.
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Re: Army Farmalls

Postby Indy4570 » Mon Apr 23, 2018 8:11 am

some people made air compressors out of VW engines, 2 for power n 2 for air compression
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Re: Army Farmalls

Postby Shane Nelson » Mon Apr 23, 2018 8:16 am

Indy4570 wrote:Shane that is one cool tractor, I did some research after seeing you mention your family owned one, so many variants, its good to see yours!

Schramm made compressors out of flat head V8 Ford engines as well, they took 2 cylinders on each side and made them the compressor. I've seen a picture of a small crawler they did as well. They used it to jack hammer roads in the mountains. Schramm is still in business today but makes drill rigs.
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