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Got a sickle bar, have some questions

Postby radioguy41 » Sat Apr 21, 2018 7:36 pm

I picked up this sickle bar at an auction today. It's functionally complete (including the pulley and belt) with just a couple of pieces missing. First is the shield over the belt which isn't really needed but it would be nice to have one. Second is the grass board and rod. Third is the stay rod.

Those pieces can be made but not without patterns and/or measurements so I'm hoping someone can provide patterns or measurements for them. Can anyone help?

Thanks,
Larry

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Re: Got a sickle bar, have some questions

Postby staninlowerAL » Sat Apr 21, 2018 8:10 pm

Contact Forum member tst. I think he has the reproduction parts you are looking for.

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Re: Got a sickle bar, have some questions

Postby Scrivet » Sun Apr 22, 2018 9:43 am

No sickle bar post is complete without the obligatory "don't stick your fingers in the rock guards when you're lifting the cutter bar to transport position". Keep your fingers all together (no pun intended) stretched out straight and lift with a flat hand from the underside. Lower the bar the same way.

Always keep dogs and cats penned up while you are operating it. Let them run free around a sickle mower and it may be the last running they do.

A sickle mower will cut most anything that fits between the rock guards. It doesn't matter whether it's grass, weeds, a small bush, a finger, or a pets leg.

This concludes today's sickle safety message.

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Re: Got a sickle bar, have some questions

Postby BSR » Sun Apr 22, 2018 10:19 am

Hey Larry, I have 5 or 6 cub sickel bar mowers laying around, you sure are welcome to come and take measurement, or take a part for a pattern. Your only an hour away from me.

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Re: Got a sickle bar, have some questions

Postby radioguy41 » Sun Apr 22, 2018 6:52 pm

Brad, PM sent.
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Re: Got a sickle bar, have some questions

Postby Drfting1 » Sun Apr 22, 2018 8:03 pm

A member sent me a pattern for the grass board, I haven't gotten around to making a new one for myself yet, if you have any of the hardware for it, I can cut you one at the same time I do mine or send you the pattern when I'm done with it
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Re: Got a sickle bar, have some questions

Postby Glen » Sun Apr 22, 2018 9:46 pm

Hi,
Below is the Cub 22 mower owner's manual. I has lots of info. It is for 3 different mowers, for 3 different models of IH tractors. Some of the info is for all 3 mowers, and some is not.
It says at the top of the pages if info is for 1 model of mower. :)

http://farmallcub.com/rudi_cub/www.clea ... index.html

It is easier to put the mower on the Cub, if you take the mower apart some, like disconnect the center section, with the long tube, from the other part of the mower. It shows it in the manual, beginning on page 14.

You don't use the manual lift that it shows in the manual, if you have Touch Control. Maybe you knew that already.

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Re: Got a sickle bar, have some questions

Postby radioguy41 » Mon Apr 23, 2018 12:01 pm

Thanks Glen, yeah, we were using sickle bars on the farm all the way back in the 1940's so I'm familiar, the slicer is already removed and stacked in the corner. :)
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Re: Got a sickle bar, have some questions

Postby Larry in WNY » Mon Apr 23, 2018 12:52 pm

It's not too bad to mount the mower using a engine hoist. I have a 1 ton lift and use it for several things. Put 3 point hitch pins on it to take outside on the back of a Ford 2N to lift stuff from the pickup truck. I've used them to mount large 38" tires by myself. Rolls into place easy with the tire resting on the legs. The tires were not loaded.
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Re: Got a sickle bar, have some questions

Postby radioguy41 » Tue Apr 24, 2018 8:12 am

I think I might be looking for a new pitman to replace the homemade one (2 boards only held together at the ends). How long do you figger this one would hold up in the field? :?

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Re: Got a sickle bar, have some questions

Postby staninlowerAL » Tue Apr 24, 2018 8:27 am

IMO, not very long. Appears to be laminated like plywood and missing fasteners which will accelerate the loose motion when the drive starts the eccentric movement.

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Re: Got a sickle bar, have some questions

Postby Jim Becker » Tue Apr 24, 2018 10:26 am

It might do OK if the bolts were replaced. Given what we can see, I wouldn't be surprised if the length is off too. That usually makes them run hard.

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Re: Got a sickle bar, have some questions

Postby wrz » Tue Apr 24, 2018 12:45 pm

I always thought that wood was use as a safety feature and will brake when you hit something real hard. The double boards may exceed a single piece.
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Re: Got a sickle bar, have some questions

Postby radioguy41 » Tue Apr 24, 2018 2:06 pm

Jim Becker wrote:It might do OK if the bolts were replaced. Given what we can see, I wouldn't be surprised if the length is off too. That usually makes them run hard.

It's got a couple of other issues. First, it's too fat so the PO shaved the far end to get the blade connector to fit. Not nice and smooth shave either. Looks like it was done with a hand held circular saw. Second, it's warped and has a distinct sideways curve to it. Unfortunately, based on their website, it looks like TSC no longer carries IH replacements, only Deere and Ford, so I'll have to shop around a bit.
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Re: Got a sickle bar, have some questions

Postby Jim Becker » Tue Apr 24, 2018 2:23 pm

Last I knew, they were still available from CaseIH. Google the part number 451392R1, and you find them all over the place.


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