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Re: Got a sickle bar, have some questions

Postby radioguy41 » Mon Jun 25, 2018 9:12 am

ajhbike wrote:what paint did you use?


Craftsman blue CXOP8

http://farmallcub.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=100786
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Re: Got a sickle bar, have some questions

Postby Drfting1 » Mon Jun 25, 2018 12:33 pm

Yours looks great... I'm way behind doing mine, basically just started, too many projects around house, hopefully can get ahead and get more cub time lol
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Re: Got a sickle bar, have some questions

Postby radioguy41 » Tue Jun 26, 2018 5:21 pm

Thanks Bill. Well, Cyrus finally saw the sun today, first time outdoors since last October. I took a nice long ride with him. In the sunlight the blue isn't quite as dark as I'd like but I'm not unhappy with it. Kinda like it actually. :)

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Re: Got a sickle bar, have some questions

Postby Shane N. » Tue Jun 26, 2018 5:24 pm

Looks good.
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Re: Got a sickle bar, have some questions

Postby Scrivet » Tue Jun 26, 2018 8:13 pm

Is the front hanger bolt and washer just temporary? I don't think you'd ever keep that tight in operation once you get the sickle all together.

Cyrus looks happy to be outside.

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Re: Got a sickle bar, have some questions

Postby radioguy41 » Tue Jun 26, 2018 9:22 pm

The manual I have says to use cap screws for the front bracket and a coned head screw for the rear bracket lower hole and a cap screw for the upper hole. However, it will never be operational so mox nix. :)
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Re: Got a sickle bar, have some questions

Postby Jim Becker » Tue Jun 26, 2018 9:49 pm

radioguy41 wrote:The manual I have says to use cap screws for the front bracket and a coned head screw for the rear bracket lower hole and a cap screw for the upper hole.

I've never seen a manual that says that. But I've never seen the earliest version. My oldest is a revised version from 11/47. All versions I've seen call out a drawbar type bolt for the front. The mower should have countersinks at the front mounts.

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Re: Got a sickle bar, have some questions

Postby Scrivet » Wed Jun 27, 2018 7:28 am

Jim Becker wrote:......I've never seen a manual that says that. But I've never seen the earliest version. My oldest is a revised version from 11/47. ......

I don't think it would be an early manual if it mentions an upper bolt on the rear. Didn't the early mowers only have a lower hole?

Maybe the cap screw mention is referencing the drag bar connection and not the front mower hanger?

radioguy41 wrote:......... However, it will never be operational so mox nix. :)

WOW! I am totally stunned by you saying it doesn't matter with the level of detail to originality and accuracy you have sought on everything else. That bolt is going to stick out like the proverbial "tootsie roll" in a punchbowl. Doesn't matter to me though, chrome plate that bolt and make it shine if you like.

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Re: Got a sickle bar, have some questions

Postby radioguy41 » Wed Jun 27, 2018 3:19 pm

I can't find a date on the manual but the tractor on the cover is a square nose.

Here's the page from the manual. #'s 4, 5 & 6. Note the only cone head bolt is located at "M", the rear mount lower bolt.

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Re: Got a sickle bar, have some questions

Postby tmays » Wed Jun 27, 2018 3:49 pm

Yep it reads cap screws. But I do know everything printed in the manuals is not correct. Perhaps on the later model mowers they used cap screws and the hangers were flat. But if the hangers are shaped for the cone bolts, then the manual is wrong.
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Re: Got a sickle bar, have some questions

Postby k hutchins » Wed Jun 27, 2018 4:29 pm

I agree with tmays. My c22 is from 48 as is my tractor. The mounting bolts are the same ones used throughout with the tapered back side. All of the mounting holes on the equipment is "counter sunk" to receive those bolts so things don't loosen up during operation.
Why is there never enough time to do the job right, but always enough time to do it over. :?:

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Re: Got a sickle bar, have some questions

Postby radioguy41 » Wed Jun 27, 2018 5:47 pm

Scrivet wrote:
radioguy41 wrote:......... However, it will never be operational so mox nix. :)

WOW! I am totally stunned by you saying it doesn't matter with the level of detail to originality and accuracy you have sought on everything else. That bolt is going to stick out like the proverbial "tootsie roll" in a punchbowl. Doesn't matter to me though, chrome plate that bolt and make it shine if you like.

I was referencing that it wouldn't work loose because it was never going to be operational so "mox nix" meant it wasn't a concern. Sorry if that wasn't clear.
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Re: Got a sickle bar, have some questions

Postby radioguy41 » Wed Jun 27, 2018 6:01 pm

Here's the manual for the L-22 for the Lo-Boy. It also calls for cap screws.

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Here's the listing from an earlier parts manual. The tractor on the cover is a 54-58 model.
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Re: Got a sickle bar, have some questions

Postby Glen » Wed Jun 27, 2018 7:25 pm

Hi,
It looks like in the pic you posted above, from the mower manual, for the regular Cub, they have changed the front mounting bracket from what the older mowers had.
The older brackets had a cutout in a hook shape on the right and left sides. They use the tapered head bolts, like the drawbar uses.

Below is a page from the 1952 Cub 22 mower manual showing the tapered head bolts are used there.

http://www.farmallcub.info/manuals/cub- ... e%2011.jpg

Below is the whole 1952 Cub 22 mower owner's manual.

http://www.farmallcub.info/galleries/ci ... _Mower.asp

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Re: Got a sickle bar, have some questions

Postby radioguy41 » Wed Jun 27, 2018 7:41 pm

Has it been verified that the front mount for a standard Cub changed from slot to hole at some point?
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