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Re: Poor Man's Restoration

Postby Jim Becker » Mon Jun 25, 2018 2:52 pm

That starter was used from serial 128799 (1951) through 224400 (1964) and Lo-Boys through 18700 (1964). The date code system was the same as for the generators. So this is June 18 of some year ending with 1. Since it was used for more than 10 years, it could be 1951 or 1961.

As far as I know, this starter was only used on Cubs. Even though used for more years, the numbers produced would have been fewer than most versions of the generators.

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Re: Poor Man's Restoration

Postby rockfarmer » Mon Jun 25, 2018 8:05 pm

Thank you Jim. The starter works great.


I need some help finishing up the electrical system. The lights work, but they are very dim. Reflectors are stained with what appears to be vaporized gasket material. The rear is the same as the headlights. No red bulb. They cleaned up ok, but are still stained and not very efficient, producing an orange/amber light even on bright.
47 headlight.jpg


So I bought new reflectors'
47 new reflector lens.jpg


and have run into a snag;
47 headlight ground.jpg


Was the light wired this way from the factory, with the ground wire attached, or is this a mod? Can I just remove the wire from the existing bulb socket and re-solder it onto the new reflector?

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Re: Poor Man's Restoration

Postby Scrivet » Mon Jun 25, 2018 10:03 pm

Power comes in through the center of the bulb on the wire. They would have "grounded" from the bulb socket, through the reflector, to a copper strip riveted to the lamp shell that folds over the edge of the reflector when you clamp the trim ring on.

I think you'll find that the orange/amber light you get out of the 1133 bulbs is due to the filament. I remember when all cars had standard size and shape headlights, they were all yellowish. Not until all the zenon, hydrogen, HID, lithium, kryptonite etc. headlights started replacing the old yellow ones did we think headlights should be white or blue.

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Re: Poor Man's Restoration

Postby rockfarmer » Tue Jun 26, 2018 7:32 am

I hate driving past blue lights at night...but maybe won't mind them on my tractor, since I don't have to stare at them.

I found Stanton's How To last night, viewtopic.php?f=140&t=91025 ,
and decided that is exactly what I should do. Brilliant technique for someone suffering from the "thin wallet syndrome" like Mr. Robinson referred to recently. Thank you!

Then found and read this thread, https://www.google.com/url?q=http://www ... EannlAOh3j

which led me to another thread, etc...
6V LED.jpg

One is soft white at 3000 and the other is bright white at 6000. I believe I put the bright ones in.
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Turned them on last night and 8) ...Thank you inairam for the LED referral. Now there is no need to "re-wire" what is currently working.

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Re: Poor Man's Restoration

Postby AL Farmall Boy » Tue Jun 26, 2018 2:43 pm

Looking good! Haha, I guess you have a few new reflectors for sale then!
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Re: Poor Man's Restoration

Postby rockfarmer » Wed Jun 27, 2018 11:40 am

AL Farmall Boy wrote:Looking good! Haha, I guess you have a few new reflectors for sale then!


Thanks Chase...don't know about looking good, but she sure is running good. I will shelve the reflectors for the next restoration, when funds become available.

I reported there was NO budget...Well, now I'm in the hole for $650 and the wife wants it paid back in manual labor. :(

The debt was incurred by replacing all of the bearings, oil seals and gaskets, reverse idler gear, new plugs, wiring harness, light bulbs, ammeter, battery, lift rod, and a chrome acorn nut for the steering wheel. I was very frugal, except for the acorn nut, and used several items already on the shelf, including new rims, weights and tires for the rear.

There is only one repair that I still need to address, hopefully when a restore is happening and not sooner, is this,
47 block repair.jpg

It does not leak oil.

I'm extremely impressed with the condition of this tractor. The previous owner(s) took really good care of this Cub.

The plans are to do some light duty work like planting okra, peppers and maybe a few rows of corn for the deer. It is currently Africa hot down here and nothing is growing but the heat index. As soon as we begin seeing some rain, I'm going to try using a planter for first time.

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Re: Poor Man's Restoration

Postby rockfarmer » Sun Jul 01, 2018 12:38 pm

Got a question regarding charge rates.

Following is switch position L, H, D and B. Engine is at low idle at 500-600 rpm's.
The ammeter does not change when the lights are switched on and the dim position appears to be the same as B position.

47 Low charge.jpg

47 light switch H.jpg

47 light switch D.jpg

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High rate appears to be 12 amps with or without the lights on. I am using 6V LED bulbs on all three lights. Also the rear light comes on in both D and B positions.

There are two locations for the rear light wire to attach on the switch. One is close to the resistor and the other is to the right, towards the fuse. I used the location closest to the fuse...I believe there is a raised 2 next to the connection, just like the original wiring was connected.
47 Dash back original wire.jpg


Do I need a switch on the rear light, or does the switch in the dash control it?

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Re: Poor Man's Restoration

Postby rockfarmer » Sun Jul 01, 2018 1:15 pm

Edit;
Just looked at the light switch and the rear lights are wired differently than described in my previous post.
47 light switch wired.jpg


Sorry about that. Perhaps this is why the rear light comes on when in the D position?

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Re: Poor Man's Restoration

Postby Jim Becker » Sun Jul 01, 2018 2:03 pm

A couple things look different than the earlier picture. It doesn't matter which of those 2 rear light terminals is used. The light should come on at "D". LED lights may use so little current that the dim resistor has little to no effect.

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Re: Poor Man's Restoration

Postby Mrblanche » Thu Jan 03, 2019 3:28 pm

Bill Hudson wrote:Tim,

Others, with more experience than I, will be along soon with thoughts. My take is that the chances it doesn't leak are between these two extremes --- slim and none.

Bill


Isn't English a funny language, where a fat chance, a slim chance, and no chance are all the same?

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Re: Poor Man's Restoration

Postby 59cub » Sun Jan 20, 2019 4:16 pm

I am so glad that this tractor went to a good home! Following along in Ohio


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