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Re: Bought a '47 Cub the other day.

Postby Glen » Sat Dec 08, 2018 11:12 pm

Hi,
I thought I would say that the front wheels on the 1947 USA Cubs are originally red, not sure if someone painted yours with silver before, or you wanted them that way. :)

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Re: Bought a '47 Cub the other day.

Postby Red 49 » Sun Dec 09, 2018 8:41 am

Hi you're tractor dose not have touch control / hydraulic it has a hand lift like mine and you're tractor engine used to run on a magneto system but someone has changed it to run off the battery system so i would look into that. It's a good looking cub and I'm sure you will have fun playing with it good luck

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Re: Bought a '47 Cub the other day.

Postby Flemmingth » Sun Dec 09, 2018 3:21 pm

Glen wrote:Hi,
I thought I would say that the front wheels on the 1947 USA Cubs are originally red, not sure if someone painted yours with silver before, or you wanted them that way. :)

I know that they originally was red. When I bought the Cub, one was dirty-white and the other was rusty-red :)
I think it will look somewhat cool with all four wheels painted alike. You may also have noticed the manifold colour - heat resistent silver. That's not 'by the book' either.

Red 49 wrote:Hi you're tractor dose not have touch control / hydraulic it has a hand lift like mine and you're tractor engine used to run on a magneto system but someone has changed it to run off the battery system so i would look into that. It's a good looking cub and I'm sure you will have fun playing with it good luck

When I bought it, it was like a Tesla, as the battery had to be charged now and then :oops:
The 6V system was malfunctioning, and the previous owner had installed a coil. I made insulation- and resistance test on the generator. I think it's beyond repair. And the magneto coil is missing. And ? ? ?
6V equipment is rare, and therefore expensive around here. Import from US is expensive too, due to shipment, customs and danish VAT.
It may end up with 12V, as used cars and -parts are very accessible and at reasonable prices.
Time will show :beer:
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Location: Denmark

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Re: Bought a '47 Cub the other day.

Postby Flemmingth » Mon May 06, 2019 11:14 am

I decided to rebuild the 6 volt magneto ignition – because I have never worked on magneto ignition before.
Looked through the old stuff. Magneto coil missing, points burned, condenser defective (assumption as an external was added), teeth on pinion gear and rotor very worn, rotor and distributor contacts burnt, cracked distributor cap, insulation on spark plug cables degraded. Spark plugs looked almost like new. So – it became a good day for Brillman.
Got an extremely good offer for new tires, arranged by a good friend living close to our place, so I had to get the rear wheels ready for rubber.
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Looong days waiting for parts to arrive. Used the time to make up and install a pony tank.
Installed the ignition parts and made the timing, all acc. to the manuals.
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Got the wheels back and put them on the tractor.
Next day was the THE DAY !
Pushed the Cub out in open air.
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Added coolant, added lube oil (through the new filter to get air out of it), primed the oil pump and added gasoline.
Climbed the tractor, shaked hand with the gear shifter, throttle lever in mid position, closed the choker and pulled the starter rod. Engine turned but no ignition. Less choker, more/less throttle – no ignition at all ? ? ? ?
Stepped down, walked wondering around the tractor, took another look at the ignition wiring and when I spotted the thin wire, it struck me: BIG FOOL – you haven’t deactivated the ignition kill switch – GOSH ! !
Climbed the tractor, shaked hand with the gear shifter, throttle lever in mid position, closed the choker, pushed the ignition kill switch and pulled the starter rod. It simply started at first ignition, and within 10-15 sec. the oil gauge went to approx. 2/3 of the white part (the gauge has been tested and top white is approx. 40 psig).
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The engine sounds extremely good. Stepped down and took a walk around the tractor. No splashing/dripping/smoking and the exhaust was next to invisible.
What a pleasant joyous and relieving moment ! !
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Re: Bought a '47 Cub the other day.

Postby Dale Finch » Mon May 06, 2019 11:35 am

Fandamntastic!! :{_}:

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Re: Bought a '47 Cub the other day.

Postby Cubfriend » Mon May 06, 2019 12:13 pm

Those simple little switches have caught more than one person off guard. At least you caught it before the battery was dead. Congratulations on your nice running Cub! A job well done!
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Re: Bought a '47 Cub the other day.

Postby Flemmingth » Mon May 06, 2019 1:13 pm

Cubfriend wrote:Those simple little switches have caught more than one person off guard. At least you caught it before the battery was dead. Congratulations on your nice running Cub! A job well done!

I know. I have read about it on here earlier. I therefore felt extraordinary foolish :headbang
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Re: Bought a '47 Cub the other day.

Postby Cubfriend » Mon May 06, 2019 1:46 pm

No need to beat yourself up about it. It’s happened to many of us. Enjoy your Cub!
Frank

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Re: Bought a '47 Cub the other day.

Postby rockfarmer » Mon May 06, 2019 1:50 pm

woohoo!!!

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Re: Bought a '47 Cub the other day.

Postby Glen » Mon May 06, 2019 4:36 pm

Hi,
The Cub looks really good in your pics. :)

The Cubs originally had an ignition wire holder held on the by the 3rd head bolt from the front, on the right side of the engine.

Below is a page from the Cub parts manual showing the magneto, spark plug wires, and wire holder, it is numbers 3 and 4 in the pic.

http://www.farmallcub.info/manuals/cub_ ... 012-21.jpg

Below is a listing for it at TM Tractor, and a pic of where it goes.

http://www.tmtractor.com/new/gr/359fp.htm

I don't know if you have any interest, I know it's expensive for you to get parts there.
You would need to shorten the spark plug wires it has in your pic to use the holder. :)

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Re: Bought a '47 Cub the other day.

Postby k hutchins » Tue May 07, 2019 6:52 pm

Great job. It makes me very happy when people put in the effort to keep things original.
Your extra effort shows and l think will make you very happy in the future.
Why is there never enough time to do the job right, but always enough time to do it over. :?:

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Re: Bought a '47 Cub the other day.

Postby Indy4570 » Tue May 07, 2019 8:22 pm

love seeing your progress, keep up the good work! I wonder if Tst can make you a replica marshal emblem ;)
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Re: Bought a '47 Cub the other day.

Postby Flemmingth » Thu May 09, 2019 6:00 am

Glen wrote:Hi,

The Cubs originally had an ignition wire holder held on the by the 3rd head bolt from the front, on the right side of the engine.

You would need to shorten the spark plug wires it has in your pic to use the holder. :)

Hi Glen,
Thanks for the info. I was eager to hear the engine running, so I just put the spark plug cables on "as is". Before the hood comes on, they will be shortened to appropriate lengths, and properly arranged. I will not unscrew a headbolt just to install a secondary bracket. I will come up with something else.
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Re: Bought a '47 Cub the other day.

Postby Flemmingth » Thu May 09, 2019 6:13 am

Indy4570 wrote:love seeing your progress, keep up the good work! I wonder if Tst can make you a replica marshal emblem ;)

Hi Indy,
Thanks to you - and all the other gals and guys - for your nice comments.
The Marshall Plan sticker ? ? No decision yet. I think a new sticker can be made in Denmark, but it may be pricy.
Maybe the hood just will be painted around the sticker. Won't be pretty, but the authenticity will be kept.
Then I just have to find a preservation method for the old sticker to avoid further degration.
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Re: Bought a '47 Cub the other day.

Postby Flemmingth » Fri May 17, 2019 1:11 pm

One minor issue came up after engine start.
Low idle (throttle lever all way back) had too high RPM, so I adjusted the gov.-carb. link till the engine started to run unevenly – and then a little back till low idle became a smooth babbling.
High idle: Before I disassembled the governor for repair, I measured the height of the high rev. limiter bolt, and then cut the seal wire, which looked like it had been there for many decades. After repair, the limiter bolt was locked in the same height again. May not be correct, but I’m pretty convinced that it is rather close. It will be checked later on with a rev. counter.
Then it was time for a test run and roundtrip to those neighbors and friends, who follows my Cub project with same interest as you do on here.
The steering was a nice surprise. The front wheels sideways flapping was gone and the ½ turn steering wheel backlash was reduced to less than an inch. When disassembled, the worm wheel was turned 180°, one bent tie rod straightened, one shim removed from the steering gear arm, tie rod ball seats adjusted, toe in adjusted, new oil seals installed and SAE90 oil added.
The only noticeable at first stop was trace of oil at the oil filter stud, so it got a ½ turn extra.
I ended up at my good friend who helped me getting tires at a very good price. He was very pleased with the result. He then took me behind his barn, where a small trailer was situated. Basically in good condition, but needing some repair and paint. “It suits your Cub, so I want you to have it” he said.
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It had been lent out to some family for years, and he had just got it back “in a miserable condition” (his words), and he had no need for it anymore. No money. His only condition was that the trailer at one point achieved the same standard as the Cub would.
Drove a one hour detour home with full throttle, to get the engine warm. Encountered no problems.
Next day I checked the Cub. Engine oil – OK. Compression test: 120/120/100/115 psig. Coolant had to be topped up after deaeration. Otherwise nothing to notice. I'm a very happy guy right now !
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