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1977 international cub

Postby jrmiddleton83 » Fri Jun 29, 2018 11:23 am

Does anyone know how many were painted red at the factory? I have found they made 1277 in total in '77.
I thought they were all red after 75 or 76, but now I have seen a yellow cub that was a 76. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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Re: 1977 international cub

Postby Barnyard » Fri Jun 29, 2018 11:29 am

IH did not keep numbers on how may were painted a particular color.
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Re: 1977 international cub

Postby IHCFan1950 » Fri Jun 29, 2018 11:39 am

It was my understanding that all cubs that late were yellow and white, not red. In 1973 they dropped the "Farmall" brand entirely and the tractor became known as an International Cub. For 77, I do believe that there were red cubs post 75 actually made. Production figures for the 77 year were very low. Only like 1000 and some change. Of course, it was also the new owner's discretion how they wanted the tractor painted. Some wanted their tractor painted red, so that is how some came out. Others wanted yellow. I think the Cadets were actually the yellow ones though.
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Re: 1977 international cub

Postby w30bob » Fri Jun 29, 2018 12:47 pm

Hi jr,

This is a great forum, but truth be told........information on the last couple of years of longstripe Cubs is spotty at best. You'd think we'd have the most info on the ones that were made last, as folks have been interested in Cubs for decades and know what questions to ask, but I guess most have focused on the earlier versions. That's not a criticism of anyone, as interest dictates which way the hobby (and this forum) goes.......and in the past the interest has been (and mostly still is) in the earlier Cubs.

There were definitely red Cubs made in 77, as I've got one, but how many were red.........don't know. I think someone on here is tracking late Cub serial numbers and colors to try to figure that out some day.....but I don't remember who that was. People are implying that Cubs were "made to order" in 1977 and later, and that a buyer could determine which color he wanted. I don't know if that was really how it worked or not. With Cub demand dwindling I would think IH made them as they saw fit and what the dealers got might have been out of their control. I can't imagine IH would hold up the production line to paint one tractor a special color and then resume painting them in the standard colors. What sounds more logical to me is they looked at initial dealer demand from the first couple months of the year and then made the same amount and color split for the following months until the end of the production year. But again, I wasn't there........so I'm pulling all this out of my butt. Take it for what it's worth.

There is some good info on here about late Cubs, but finding it is a bitch. The search function is the worst I've ever used. You're better off searching for "1977 Cub" on Google and letting Google dig thru this site to find the info on these tractors. Using the search function that's in this forum is nothing but an exercise in frustration. The SN on my '77 is 251200.........is yours a close relative?

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Re: 1977 international cub

Postby inairam » Fri Jun 29, 2018 12:54 pm

IHCFan1950 wrote:It was my understanding that all cubs that late were yellow and white, not red. In 1973 they dropped the "Farmall" brand entirely and the tractor became known as an International Cub. For 77, I do believe that there were red cubs post 75 actually made. Production figures for the 77 year were very low. Only like 1000 and some change. Of course, it was also the new owner's discretion how they wanted the tractor painted. Some wanted their tractor painted red, so that is how some came out. Others wanted yellow. I think the Cadets were actually the yellow ones though.


In 1964 they made a number of changes and one of them was going from red to yellow and white and "International"
In late 1975 they made a number of changes they became the long strip cubs. Most were yellow and white but they did pepper some red ones in.

As Barnyard wrote I have not seen any factory production data that has color info for those years.

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Re: 1977 international cub

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Re: 1977 international cub

Postby tst » Fri Jun 29, 2018 1:58 pm

this is not a new question, records of what tractor was painted or where or what dealer a certain serial # received were not known to be kept so its any ones guess

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Re: 1977 international cub

Postby IHCFan1950 » Fri Jun 29, 2018 3:14 pm

inairam wrote:In 1964 they made a number of changes and one of them was going from red to yellow and white and "International"
In late 1975 they made a number of changes they became the long strip cubs. Most were yellow and white but they did pepper some red ones in.

As Barnyard wrote I have not seen any factory production data that has color info for those years.

Maybe TST knows.


Not trying to muddy the waters further, but weren't there also some red and white cubs being turned out circa 1964 and 1965? It seems like I had heard some info about those before, but it is sketchy at best.
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Re: 1977 international cub

Postby Barnyard » Fri Jun 29, 2018 3:22 pm

Yes Red and white. That was when IH was changing over from round to square fronts.
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Re: 1977 international cub

Postby Jim Becker » Fri Jun 29, 2018 4:54 pm

You won't find much about the very late Cubs because there aren't many of them out there. Half the Cubs built were built before the end of 1950. A third of them were built just in '48 or '49. People post questions and comments about what they have. So most of what you find is going to be on the early tractors.

Results from a search engine, any search engine, depend a lot on exactly how you ask the question. Choosing the right key words can be a challenge. The search built into this site has some restrictions to keep it from using too much computing time. So it ignores very common and very short search words that might choke things down. If you don't notice the response including "ignored: a an the" the results may seem strange. If you really want to search using items the built-in search ignores, the google search (available on each page) is a viable option.

By the way, you might find more relevant posts searching for "long stripe" than you do from "1977".

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Re: 1977 international cub

Postby indy61 » Fri Jun 29, 2018 5:36 pm

Once they changed to yellow as the standard color red was an option. That option was less known/advertised in later years.

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Re: 1977 international cub

Postby Glen » Fri Jun 29, 2018 6:28 pm

Hi,
Below are pages from the Cub parts manual, showing the 2 styles of square front Cubs, and the serial numbers when they were made. You can look up the serial numbers in the info at the top of the page, at Cub Info.
The first square front Cub said Farmall Cub, and the second style said International Cub, on the hood decals.

http://www.farmallcub.info/manuals/cub_ ... 000-12.jpg

http://www.farmallcub.info/manuals/cub_ ... 000-13.jpg

Serial number 224705 was made during 1964. That was then they began painting them yellow, with a white hood, and white wheels.
There have been many pics on this website of the yellow and white Cubs, from the 1960's and 70's.

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Re: 1977 international cub

Postby hammerhead » Sat Sep 01, 2018 9:10 pm

Hi Bob, I have a close reletive, my 1977 longstripe cub is #251---, not sure right off what the last three digits are but mine is yellow/white. I did see a 1977 at the stonethrow cub fest in Ga about 5 years ago and it was red. Cant remember the mans name. Does any one know if longstripe decals are available. I 'm getting ready for a new paint job.

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Re: 1977 international cub

Postby Glen » Sat Sep 01, 2018 9:30 pm

Hi,
Below is a page of decals from TM Tractor. The Longstripe decals are the 4th one down on the page. You can look at those and see what they look like. The guys here say they have good quality parts there.

http://www.tmtractor.com/new/de/de_003.htm

I don't know if Case IH has them anymore or not.


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