Proper Oil Filter for my 1949 Farmall Cub

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Re: Proper Oil Filter for my 1949 Farmall Cub

Postby Waif » Sat Jan 19, 2019 11:18 am

WildFarmall wrote:Last week I ordered an oil filter for my 1949 Farmall Cub from Steiner Tractor (their part no. ABC 093) and they sent a Wix filter # 51153. When I tried it today it would not fit. the hole in the cente is 7/16" and my bolt is 1/2". Additionally, my old filter is 2 1/2" across and the Wix is only 2 1/4". In any case the filter would not work. When I called Steiner about the problem they said that they had sent the right filter and that there was no other filter that they had that would work. They said that they would give me my money back if I sent it back. I paid $10.45 plus shipping and since sending it back would cost just as much I am stuck with it. At least I can use the rubber gasket. Am I missing something? I just spent close to $1k with Steiner on parts and you would think they would be a little more forgiving on the error. I checked their catalogue and it seems that the ABC 093 is the only filter for the Cub. Has anyone else had this problem?


As mentioned ,try the bolt in the other end of the filter. Seems I almost thread mine on at the lower hole to get bolt threaded end started through it after bolt passes through top hole.
Then of course usually have to remove it to add copper washer and lid.....And after snugging it all down , then spot the gasket basking feet away from the filter housing and watching the proceedings with casual disinterest.

Old filter diameter vs new? Ha..
My 48 's filter on it when first acquired , had a filter that barely fit inside the housing diameter. No idea what it was.

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Re: Proper Oil Filter for my 1949 Farmall Cub

Postby Dale Finch » Sat Jan 19, 2019 1:54 pm

Waif wrote:Seems I almost thread mine on at the lower hole to get bolt threaded end started through it after bolt passes through top hole.
Then of course usually have to remove it to add copper washer and lid.....And after snugging it all down , then spot the gasket basking feet away from the filter housing and watching the proceedings with casual disinterest.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: Proper Oil Filter for my 1949 Farmall Cub

Postby WildFarmall » Sat Jan 19, 2019 5:38 pm

Thanks everyone. I tried it again today and it will not fit. I realize one side is bigger than the other. The big hole is too small for the bolt shaft to fit through. The hole diameter is 7/16" and maybe I could ream it to 1/2" but should not have to. I found a filter locally that will work. It is a Car Quest 85153 022118 (this is the number printed on the filter housing). This filter fits perfectly and is 2 & 1/2 inches wide with a 1/2 inch hole (on the large hole). Additionally the old filter that I took out is a Baldwin 1111101 3342 (also the number printed on the filter) and it fits perfectly. I tried cross referencing these two filters with Wix and had no luck (or maybe I did not do it right.
Thanks to the person who sent the 1949 manual. In it I notice the bolt has a washer or a gasket. My bolt does not have the washer or gasket. The bolt head fits snug on the canister cap and I do not see any leaks. Any suggestions on this? I am so appreciative of everyone's comments.

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Re: Proper Oil Filter for my 1949 Farmall Cub

Postby Glen » Sat Jan 19, 2019 7:50 pm

Hi,
Good that you found an oil filter that fits well.
Lucky that the oil filter top doesn't leak without the washer.
The oil filter bolt uses a copper washer.
Below is a listing at TM Tractor for a new copper washer for the oil filter bolt.

http://www.tmtractor.com/new/en/287fp.htm

You might find a copper washer at NAPA, or other auto parts store. I would take the bolt along, to be sure the washer fits on it. They have said on here before to be sure it is a copper washer, so it will seal well.
Sometimes I have needed to put a little non hardening sealer on the washer, to make it stop leaking oil, but yours may not need that.

Below is the cover gasket, they should have that also. :)

http://www.tmtractor.com/new/en/136fp.htm

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Re: Proper Oil Filter for my 1949 Farmall Cub

Postby WildFarmall » Sat Jan 19, 2019 10:10 pm

Gary Dotson wrote:I just put a Wix 51153 in my Lo-Boy the other day, it may be a snug fit and it may be a tight fit but it will fit. Trust us, you have the correct filter.

Trust me it will not fit - unless I ream it out with a punch or drill. Either I have a defective filter, or they put the wrong filter in the 51153 box, or for some reason my bolt diameter is larger than it should be (this is unlikely in my opinion). The large hole is 7/16" when it should be 1/2". The 1/2 " fits snug as everyone describes.

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Re: Proper Oil Filter for my 1949 Farmall Cub

Postby Barnyard » Sat Jan 19, 2019 10:15 pm

WildFarmall wrote:The large hole is 7/16" when it should be 1/2".

I'm curious what size the other hole is.
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Re: Proper Oil Filter for my 1949 Farmall Cub

Postby ntrenn » Sat Jan 19, 2019 10:24 pm

I had similar issues with the clearance rack frams from tsc. I ended up buying new filters from the dealer. Less than $10 each and they fit. I think they were purolator brand and they came with the gasket. For the copper washer...banjo washer from any parts store...

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Re: Proper Oil Filter for my 1949 Farmall Cub

Postby WildFarmall » Sat Jan 19, 2019 10:35 pm

Everyone - This is a wonderful forum for getting advice and help so thank you all. As a new person to the forum I am having a little trouble following the threads and responding to the right person at the right place. Thanks for your help and patience.

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Re: Proper Oil Filter for my 1949 Farmall Cub

Postby Denny Clayton » Sun Jan 20, 2019 10:37 am

In the place of a copper washer, I use a 1/2" nylon washer. Easier to find, cheaper and works just as well.
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Re: Proper Oil Filter for my 1949 Farmall Cub

Postby Don McCombs » Sun Jan 20, 2019 1:39 pm

Is this what your oil filter stud looks like?

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Re: Proper Oil Filter for my 1949 Farmall Cub

Postby WildFarmall » Sun Jan 20, 2019 4:38 pm

Don McCombs wrote:Is this what your oil filter stud looks like?

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Don - My barn & tractor are about 15 miles away so I cannot be sure. I will take a picture and post tomorrow. It appears that my Cub oil filter is the sam as the A and Super A for some reason.

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Re: Proper Oil Filter for my 1949 Farmall Cub

Postby Don McCombs » Sun Jan 20, 2019 5:07 pm

Please take a picture of the oil filter area of the tractor, also.
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Re: Proper Oil Filter for my 1949 Farmall Cub

Postby muleboss » Sun Jan 20, 2019 5:24 pm

WildFarmall wrote:
Don McCombs wrote:Is this what your oil filter stud looks like?

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Don - My barn & tractor are about 15 miles away so I cannot be sure. I will take a picture and post tomorrow. It appears that my Cub oil filter is the sam as the A and Super A for some reason.


Is anyone else thinking what I am thinking?

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Re: Proper Oil Filter for my 1949 Farmall Cub

Postby Shane N. » Sun Jan 20, 2019 5:26 pm

muleboss wrote: Is anyone else thinking what I am thinking?

I know I am.
Every home is a school, what are you teaching?

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Re: Proper Oil Filter for my 1949 Farmall Cub

Postby Barnyard » Sun Jan 20, 2019 5:39 pm

muleboss wrote:Is anyone else thinking what I am thinking?

Yep!
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