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Re: Proper Oil Filter for my 1949 Farmall Cub

Postby Waif » Sun Jan 20, 2019 6:26 pm

51153 is good for a CUB Wix filter.
Hope no one is thinking about a Farmall A...

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Re: Proper Oil Filter for my 1949 Farmall Cub

Postby Don McCombs » Sun Jan 20, 2019 6:43 pm

Hence, the question. :D
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Re: Proper Oil Filter for my 1949 Farmall Cub

Postby WildFarmall » Sun Jan 20, 2019 8:12 pm

Not sure what you all are saying. My bolt looks like that but the shaft is 1/2" in diameter. If you all are thinking that I have a bolt made for an A or Super A - all I can say is that the bolt and lid were there when I got the tractor over 25 years ago. I wonder if IH/Farmall installed it that way from the factory 70 years ago?

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Re: Proper Oil Filter for my 1949 Farmall Cub

Postby Barnyard » Sun Jan 20, 2019 8:16 pm

Earlier I had said you had the correct bolt, but I am rethinking that statement.
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Re: Proper Oil Filter for my 1949 Farmall Cub

Postby WildFarmall » Sun Jan 20, 2019 9:35 pm

This filter is for my Farmall CUB not my Farmall A (I have both tractors).

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Re: Proper Oil Filter for my 1949 Farmall Cub

Postby WildFarmall » Sun Jan 20, 2019 9:36 pm

Waif wrote:51153 is good for a CUB Wix filter.
Hope no one is thinking about a Farmall A...


It is for a Farmall Cub!

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Re: Proper Oil Filter for my 1949 Farmall Cub

Postby Waif » Sun Jan 20, 2019 11:16 pm

WildFarmall wrote:
Waif wrote:51153 is good for a CUB Wix filter.
Hope no one is thinking about a Farmall A...


It is for a Farmall Cub!


Your Baldwin is a different number than the usual for a Cub. At least by this list which agrees with the Usual Wix.
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Sure wish we were together looking at your tractor with one of my bolts to try on your Wix filter...Then compare to your bolt. That should answer a good part of what's goin on.

But something is odd with your bolt it seems.
Keep a close eye on your oil pressure till you get it figured out.

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Re: Proper Oil Filter for my 1949 Farmall Cub

Postby WildFarmall » Mon Jan 21, 2019 6:46 pm

So, as promised, I am trying to show what bolt I have and filters.
1. The top filter is the WIX Filter that I got from Steiner that does not work. The ID is a little less than 7/16" and my bolt is 1/2". I suppose I could enlarge the opening with a round chisel but should not have to.
2. The middle picture is my bolt showing 1/2 " diameter (note the picture is not taken directly above).
3. The bottom picture is the bolt in the Car Quest filter with a good fit.
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Re: Proper Oil Filter for my 1949 Farmall Cub

Postby WildFarmall » Mon Jan 21, 2019 6:56 pm

A couple more pictures:
1. The top one shows my bolt with homemade filter gasket washer. Do you think this will work?
2. The next one shows the new governor spring I got from Steiner beside the old one. I was advised by someone here to replace the spring while I have easy access. The new one is significantly larger but I got it on and it is stronger. How will this affect the tractor? Also, is there any other servicing I should do to the governor while I am at it?
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Re: Proper Oil Filter for my 1949 Farmall Cub

Postby Glen » Mon Jan 21, 2019 7:34 pm

Hi,
Just wondered, what does the hole in the other end of the Steiner oil filter measure.
If it is the same, it is defective. It might have 2 ends with the small hole, not sure, you didn't show a pic of both ends of it.

The holes in the Fleetguard oil filter that I bought at a Case IH dealer measure .506", and .440".

It looks like the right bolt in your pic.
The gasket might work, you can try it and see.

The governor spring will probably work the same as intended, but I've never bought one from them.
The original one would have had a lot of stretching in years of use.
The governor doesn't need any servicing, except you could lube the linkage arm pivot, on top of the governor. Try to work oil into both ends of the pivot. They get dry and stuck sometimes from no lube. :)
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Re: Proper Oil Filter for my 1949 Farmall Cub

Postby WildFarmall » Mon Jan 21, 2019 9:19 pm

Glen wrote:Hi,
Just wondered, what does the hole in the other end of the Steiner oil filter measure.
If it is the same, it is defective. They might have put on 2 ends with the small hole, not sure, you didn't show a pic of both ends of it.

The holes in the Fleetguard oil filter that I bought at a Case IH dealer measure .560", and .440".

It looks like the right bolt in your pic.
The gasket might work, you can try it and see.

The governor spring will probably work the same as intended, but I've never bought one from them.
The original one would have had a lot of stretching in years of use.
The governor doesn't need any servicing, except you could lube the linkage arm pivot, on top of the governor. Try to work oil into both ends of the pivot. They get dry and stuck sometimes from no lube. :)

Thanks so much Glen.
The other end is smaller. I only measured with a tape measure and the inside diam was a little less than 7/16" and hence will not fit on 1/2" bolt shaft. The other end is even smaller maybe like the .440"

Thanks on the governor advice as I am doing this for the first time.

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Re: Proper Oil Filter for my 1949 Farmall Cub

Postby Glen » Mon Jan 21, 2019 10:23 pm

Hi,
I should have written above, the governor doesn't need servicing, if it was working normally.
The 2 pins that hold the weights on, and the holes in the weights for them can sometimes wear, and become loose, after lots of use. They are inside the governor assembly.
If it was working normally, it is probably ok.

Below is a pic from TM Tractor, the weights are on the left.
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Re: Proper Oil Filter for my 1949 Farmall Cub

Postby Shane Nelson » Mon Jan 21, 2019 10:27 pm

Your oil filter bolt looks correct. If you have a NAPA around you, get a filter from there and it should work and also have the gasket.
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Re: Proper Oil Filter for my 1949 Farmall Cub

Postby cjack » Mon Jan 21, 2019 10:50 pm

WildFarmall is right. My brother-in-law was driving past Steiner's over the holidays and I got him to pick me up a bunch of parts including the WIX filter. Our cub is in pieces but I just checked the filter with our bolt and we have exactly the same issue. I also have a filter I got from CASE fifteen years ago when the tractor was running, and that filter fits just fine on our bolt. So there mist be a problem with a recent production run of WIX filters.

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Re: Proper Oil Filter for my 1949 Farmall Cub

Postby WildFarmall » Tue Jan 22, 2019 8:40 am

Glen wrote:Hi,
I should have written above, the governor doesn't need servicing, if it was working normally.
The 2 pins that hold the weights on, and the holes in the weights for them can sometimes wear, and become loose, after lots of use. They are inside the governor assembly.
If it was working normally, it is probably ok.

Below is a pic from TM Tractor, the weights are on the left.


Thanks so much Glen! I will probably just clean thoroughly, oil, and hope for the best.


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