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inairam
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Zip Code: 19342
Tractors Owned: 1948 6v - Dozer
1949 with kub klipper belly mower. mag 6v - Mom
1950 with plow, 54 blade, mott mag 6v - Roxanne
1953 54 blade, c22, wood 42 6v
1957 with c-2 mower & c-54 grader blade 6v - barn Queen
1965 lo-boy with c-3 mower 12 v - Loboy
1974 Horse II 12 v
1975 with homemade mower 12 v - Horse
1979 long strip 12 v stuck engine
130 with international 1000 loader 6 v
1969 140 with bush hog tow behind mower 6 v
Memberships: Rough and Tumble Engineers Historical Association;Chapter 8 IH Collectors; IH Collectors Worldwide
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Location: Glen Mills PA

Re: Hay Wagon

Postby inairam » Sun Feb 24, 2019 11:55 am

I remember your original post on the wagon. It still boils down to you found the running gear you liked. I want to put a bailer c60 engine on a cart like yours just want to make sure it is stable so low and wide.
When you only have 9 horsepower you need to know the names of all of the ponies!

inairam
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Posts: 1759
Joined: Wed Jul 08, 2015 10:24 am
Zip Code: 19342
Tractors Owned: 1948 6v - Dozer
1949 with kub klipper belly mower. mag 6v - Mom
1950 with plow, 54 blade, mott mag 6v - Roxanne
1953 54 blade, c22, wood 42 6v
1957 with c-2 mower & c-54 grader blade 6v - barn Queen
1965 lo-boy with c-3 mower 12 v - Loboy
1974 Horse II 12 v
1975 with homemade mower 12 v - Horse
1979 long strip 12 v stuck engine
130 with international 1000 loader 6 v
1969 140 with bush hog tow behind mower 6 v
Memberships: Rough and Tumble Engineers Historical Association;Chapter 8 IH Collectors; IH Collectors Worldwide
Circle of Safety: Y
Location: Glen Mills PA

Re: Hay Wagon

Postby inairam » Sun Feb 24, 2019 12:06 pm

I had been looking at this https://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools ... 7661_47661 but it is $300 and dose not look very solid. For $400 I got a very heavy duty wagon but am still looking for a smaller one for the engine
When you only have 9 horsepower you need to know the names of all of the ponies!

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radioguy41
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1980 Red IH Cub Cadet 782
1993 Craftsman LT4000
1993 Craftsman LT4000 #2
Cub-54A Grader Blade
Cub-22 Sickle Mower
Planet Jr/Cole 300A Seeder
IH 59P Shredder
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Location: Lehighton, PA

Re: Hay Wagon

Postby radioguy41 » Sun Feb 24, 2019 12:27 pm

inairam wrote:I remember your original post on the wagon. It still boils down to you found the running gear you liked. I want to put a bailer c60 engine on a cart like yours just want to make sure it is stable so low and wide.

It's a shame TSC no longer sells the wagon I used to build mine. The one they sell now is smaller and lighter duty. At the BMAGSEA Fall show near Bangor there was a vendor that had a used one for about $200 so they do pop up every now and then. I found mine at a used implement dealer near Pine Grove last Summer.
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J3 Driver
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Tractors Owned: 1976 C-160 Wheelhorse
1995 JD F525
1998 JD 955 with 70A loader and 54 blade
JD 71 planter modified for use on Sleevehitch
Brinly plow, disk, and cultivator.
Son has a 1957 Cub
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Re: Hay Wagon

Postby J3 Driver » Tue Feb 26, 2019 10:34 am

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I’m still trying to find out what the running gear to my wagon is or was. The wagon is 4.5’X8.5’. Just the right size for the cub. I was told it was an old ordanance trailer. Which it could be. Very heavily built and has drum brakes on the rear axle. Thing weighs about 1000 pounds.

rbruno
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Re: Hay Wagon

Postby rbruno » Wed Feb 27, 2019 1:14 pm

I am following this and the other hay wagon threads as well. I would like to find a similar chassis to build a wagon. I use my cub for moving stuff around the yard, but only have a small lawn cart. Would really like a little bigger trailer. Some of the sizes people have shown are perfect. Trouble is finding the running gear.
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Don B.
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Tractors Owned: 1948 Cub (looks pretty)
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1952 Cub (sold)
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Location: Charleston, WV

Re: Hay Wagon

Postby Don B. » Wed Feb 27, 2019 1:54 pm

I am working on a 2-wheel trailer project myself. Progress has been slow in the cold weather but I will start a thread in Projects soon to document the progress. My primary objective is to give rides to my niece's 2 kids this summer.
Basically, I started by finding a cheap, used 4x6 utility trailer to modify and repaint in Farmall red... :tractor:
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inairam
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Joined: Wed Jul 08, 2015 10:24 am
Zip Code: 19342
Tractors Owned: 1948 6v - Dozer
1949 with kub klipper belly mower. mag 6v - Mom
1950 with plow, 54 blade, mott mag 6v - Roxanne
1953 54 blade, c22, wood 42 6v
1957 with c-2 mower & c-54 grader blade 6v - barn Queen
1965 lo-boy with c-3 mower 12 v - Loboy
1974 Horse II 12 v
1975 with homemade mower 12 v - Horse
1979 long strip 12 v stuck engine
130 with international 1000 loader 6 v
1969 140 with bush hog tow behind mower 6 v
Memberships: Rough and Tumble Engineers Historical Association;Chapter 8 IH Collectors; IH Collectors Worldwide
Circle of Safety: Y
Location: Glen Mills PA

Re: Hay Wagon

Postby inairam » Wed Feb 27, 2019 4:45 pm

Trailers are easier to find than small wagon running gear. viewtopic.php?f=2&t=103205
When you only have 9 horsepower you need to know the names of all of the ponies!

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Indy4570
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51 Farmall Cub
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55 Farmall Cub Clementine
55 International loboy
57 International loboy
62 140 Industrial The Beast
50s Allis Chalmers B
50 Ferguson TO20 Huppster
49 Ferguson TE20 Fergie
JD 790 4x4 w/backhoe
hinomoto diesel 4x4, early to mid 80s 20HP
73 Pasquali 4x4 diesel 33HP
74 Toro golf course tractor
Gilson 18HP
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Location: Missouri Ozarks

Re: Hay Wagon

Postby Indy4570 » Wed Feb 27, 2019 8:06 pm

have seen these a few times, pricey but cool looking , 12ft x4ft

https://springfield.craigslist.org/tro/ ... 35781.html

not mine or affiliated,
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inairam
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Posts: 1759
Joined: Wed Jul 08, 2015 10:24 am
Zip Code: 19342
Tractors Owned: 1948 6v - Dozer
1949 with kub klipper belly mower. mag 6v - Mom
1950 with plow, 54 blade, mott mag 6v - Roxanne
1953 54 blade, c22, wood 42 6v
1957 with c-2 mower & c-54 grader blade 6v - barn Queen
1965 lo-boy with c-3 mower 12 v - Loboy
1974 Horse II 12 v
1975 with homemade mower 12 v - Horse
1979 long strip 12 v stuck engine
130 with international 1000 loader 6 v
1969 140 with bush hog tow behind mower 6 v
Memberships: Rough and Tumble Engineers Historical Association;Chapter 8 IH Collectors; IH Collectors Worldwide
Circle of Safety: Y
Location: Glen Mills PA

Re: Hay Wagon

Postby inairam » Wed Feb 27, 2019 9:45 pm

http://www.wellmaster.ca/4ws-nursery-wagon/ interesting no prices and no mention of us distributer.
When you only have 9 horsepower you need to know the names of all of the ponies!

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Lt.Mike
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2 - '46 International A's
Location: Farmingdale NJ

Re: Hay Wagon

Postby Lt.Mike » Sun Mar 03, 2019 5:04 pm

Went to a farm auction yesterday and they had a bunch of hay wagons. I didn’t realize it but most of those had tubular center frames that were pinned much the same as a cubs front axle so you could shorten it up by a few feet. They didn’t look overly heavy either. The width of some rim to rim wasn’t that bad either. It was the wooden deck that was wide, nothing a circular saw couldn’t adjust.
I saw some go from $275 to $400. They of course needed some paint restoration and better tires.
The ones with clean paint good flotation tires took the big money.
Turns out I almost bought one as I was standing close to the action as one was going off,(1st mistake), never been to one of these and wanted to see how it works, oh I did. :oops:
A guy other than the auctioneer with the mic glanced at me and pointed, I nodded back saying what? He yells YUUUP! The auctioneer then points to me and says “I got $275 ,275, do we have $300? “

I’m ... :shock: ... wait what???

Oh no! :roll: then someone bid $300. :{_}:
I was off the hook and I got outta there. :lol:
So, I almost bought a wagon. ;)
Did successfully complete my mission for being there and got a killer deal on some Cub implements later on and learned a lot how these auctions work.
I also know now a little better what a wagon could go for and what to expect to pay when I decide to pull the trigger on that.
It was fun and I’d do it again in a heartbeat.
Last edited by Lt.Mike on Sun Mar 03, 2019 5:12 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Quote by Gary Pickeral I like
"If it can cast a shadow, it can be restored"

1958 Cub Lo-Boy
1952 Farmall Cub, Paula's Cub
1952 Farmall Cub (#2)
1946 International IA (Lil’Mule)
1946 International IA (#2)
1953 Farmall SA

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Indy4570
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Posts: 867
Joined: Tue Nov 28, 2017 2:12 am
Zip Code: 65608
Tractors Owned: 49 F cub, donor
50 Farmall Cub bugeyes(dead)
51 Farmall Cub
53 Farmall Cub
55 Farmall Cub Clementine
55 International loboy
57 International loboy
62 140 Industrial The Beast
50s Allis Chalmers B
50 Ferguson TO20 Huppster
49 Ferguson TE20 Fergie
JD 790 4x4 w/backhoe
hinomoto diesel 4x4, early to mid 80s 20HP
73 Pasquali 4x4 diesel 33HP
74 Toro golf course tractor
Gilson 18HP
Circle of Safety: Y
Location: Missouri Ozarks

Re: Hay Wagon

Postby Indy4570 » Sun Mar 03, 2019 5:12 pm

auctions are a lot of fun and can be costly if you get caught up in the bidding wars ( don't ask me how I know)
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better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it...( YES this includes CUBS! )

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Lt.Mike
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Zip Code: 07727
Tractors Owned: '58 International Cub Lo-Boy
2 - '46 International A's
Location: Farmingdale NJ

Re: Hay Wagon

Postby Lt.Mike » Sun Mar 03, 2019 5:21 pm

Indy4570 wrote:auctions are a lot of fun and can be costly if you get caught up in the bidding wars ( don't ask me how I know)

I almost bought that wagon by standing where I shouldn’t have been and by making a motion interpreted as a bid. It’s funny now but damn!

I’ve got a nice complete early grader blade setup coming north later this month for my wife’s Cub but I ended up bidding and winning another blade setup missing the down rod and lift arm. I got that along with a nice drawbar and brackets together for $110!
I plan to set that one up with the drawbar for a belly mount setup to grade a gravel drive and lot at work.
Quote by Gary Pickeral I like
"If it can cast a shadow, it can be restored"

1958 Cub Lo-Boy
1952 Farmall Cub, Paula's Cub
1952 Farmall Cub (#2)
1946 International IA (Lil’Mule)
1946 International IA (#2)
1953 Farmall SA


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