"International Cub" Stainless Hood Emblem - Bad Fit

Farmall Cub Forum -- Questions and answers to all of your Cub related issues.

Moderator: Team Cub

Forum rules
Notice: For sale and wanted posts are not allowed in this forum. Please use our free classifieds or one of our site sponsors for your tractor and parts needs.
User avatar
Urbish
5+ Years
5+ Years
Posts: 1713
Joined: Sat Sep 07, 2013 3:45 pm
Zip Code: 48158
Tractors Owned: ~
1958 International Cub LoBoy
1948 Farmall Cub
1947 Farmall H
1946 Farmall B
1953 Willys CJ3B

Cub-193 Moldboard Plow
Cub-54A Leveling and Grader Blade
Cub Loboy L-54 Leveling and Grader Blade
Unknown 5' Single Gang Disc Harrow
Circle of Safety: Y
Location: Manchester, MI

"International Cub" Stainless Hood Emblem - Bad Fit

Postby Urbish » Wed May 01, 2019 7:08 am

BEWARE: I bought side emblems for the hood of my 1958 Cub LoBoy from Steiner and they don't fit. Here is my email to their customer service last week and their response:

Cub Emblem.JPG


"I purchased two of IHS305 several years ago for my dad's tractor. I acquired the tractor after he passed away recently and he hadn't put the emblems on. I went to install them over the weekend, but the pins behind the letter 'R' in INTERNATIONAL did not align with the holes in the hood on either side. Was this a problem with that batch or a common issue? I ended up removing those pins to make it fit, but the emblem tends to bulge out away from the hood as a result."


"I am very sorry to hear you have some issues with this emblem. Unfortunately this is the only one on the market and you do have to either remove the pin or drill a new hole for the R. I do apologize for the inconvenience. Please let me know if there is anything else I can help with."


Gee, it sure would be nice if they indicated this in the product description before they extracted $50.49/ea from you. I'm very disappointed.

User avatar
Shane N.
501 Club
501 Club
Posts: 3793
Joined: Wed Nov 22, 2017 6:24 am
Zip Code: 00000
Tractors Owned: .
1970 International 140 (Norman)
1972 International 140 (Keeferdoodle)
1949 John Deere A
1993 Ford 4630 W/Loader
1965 John Deere 110
1961 Cub Cadet Original

Sold Cubs..
1947 Cub #1447 (Arnold)
1949 Cub (Walt)
1950 Cub (piece of junk)
1952 Cub
Circle of Safety: Y
Location: N.C.

Re: "International Cub" Stainless Hood Emblem - Bad Fit

Postby Shane N. » Wed May 01, 2019 7:12 am

So IH put the hole in the hood in the wrong place is what's going on here? :roll:
Every home is a school, what are you teaching?
You can't have a million dollar dream with a minimum wage work ethic.
Circle of Safety

User avatar
Dale Finch
5+ Years
5+ Years
Posts: 3720
Joined: Tue Apr 27, 2010 11:34 am
Zip Code: 27517
Tractors Owned: '55 Cub "Bertha"
'55 Cub "Ben"
'56 Cub "Boris"
'48 Super A "Bubba"
Circle of Safety: Y
Location: NC, Chapel Hill

Re: "International Cub" Stainless Hood Emblem - Bad Fit

Postby Dale Finch » Wed May 01, 2019 7:33 am

I had an emblem for my 55 F-Cub that was missing a pin on each side. I ended up using the 2-sided "tape" that body shops use for the newer non-pin style emblems. It's a tad tedious cutting it to fit in the recess of the emlem so that it sits flush, but so far it has worked fine.

User avatar
Urbish
5+ Years
5+ Years
Posts: 1713
Joined: Sat Sep 07, 2013 3:45 pm
Zip Code: 48158
Tractors Owned: ~
1958 International Cub LoBoy
1948 Farmall Cub
1947 Farmall H
1946 Farmall B
1953 Willys CJ3B

Cub-193 Moldboard Plow
Cub-54A Leveling and Grader Blade
Cub Loboy L-54 Leveling and Grader Blade
Unknown 5' Single Gang Disc Harrow
Circle of Safety: Y
Location: Manchester, MI

Re: "International Cub" Stainless Hood Emblem - Bad Fit

Postby Urbish » Wed May 01, 2019 8:24 am

Dale Finch wrote:I had an emblem for my 55 F-Cub that was missing a pin on each side. I ended up using the 2-sided "tape" that body shops use for the newer non-pin style emblems. It's a tad tedious cutting it to fit in the recess of the emlem so that it sits flush, but so far it has worked fine.


Good idea. I will do that after I decide whether or not I want to repaint the tractor in the correct colors so I can easily remove the emblem for painting. It is currently yellow with a white hood and should be mostly red.

User avatar
Urbish
5+ Years
5+ Years
Posts: 1713
Joined: Sat Sep 07, 2013 3:45 pm
Zip Code: 48158
Tractors Owned: ~
1958 International Cub LoBoy
1948 Farmall Cub
1947 Farmall H
1946 Farmall B
1953 Willys CJ3B

Cub-193 Moldboard Plow
Cub-54A Leveling and Grader Blade
Cub Loboy L-54 Leveling and Grader Blade
Unknown 5' Single Gang Disc Harrow
Circle of Safety: Y
Location: Manchester, MI

Re: "International Cub" Stainless Hood Emblem - Bad Fit

Postby Urbish » Wed May 01, 2019 8:26 am

Shane N. wrote:So IH put the hole in the hood in the wrong place is what's going on here? :roll:


Exactly. The kicker is that it is only about 1/16" off, so you can't "drill a new hole" without it picking up the edge of the original hole. There is no way I'm going to slot holes in my hood to make a poorly fabricated aftermarket item fit.

outdoors4evr
10+ Years
10+ Years
Posts: 1693
Joined: Tue Jul 22, 2008 12:44 pm
Zip Code: 48370
Tractors Owned: 184
Location: Oxford, MI

Re: "International Cub" Stainless Hood Emblem - Bad Fit

Postby outdoors4evr » Wed May 01, 2019 8:46 am

If only off by 1/16" I'd be tempted to grind a bit off each emblem stud (1/32") with a dremel.
184 w/ Creeper & 3-Point
IH 3160a Mower
IH Model 15 Tiller
IH-54 Blade

ajhbike
501 Club
501 Club
Posts: 938
Joined: Thu Mar 09, 2017 4:06 pm
Zip Code: 06405
Tractors Owned: 1957 Cub- Lorelai
1956 Lo-Boy FH- Rory
1951 Super C FH- Emily
1968 JD 3020- Paris
Woods 59 CLF
54A Blade, 54-L Blade, C-22 Sickle
C-21-P Sickle Mower
72" Rear Blade, Carryalls, Pallet Forks, IH 263 2 Row Cultivator, 7' Rake, Brush Hog, Horn-Draulic FEL
Location: Branford, CT

Re: "International Cub" Stainless Hood Emblem - Bad Fit

Postby ajhbike » Wed May 01, 2019 9:27 am

I too use the emblem tape...and trailered the cub for 300 miles and it stays stuck!

Larry in WNY
10+ Years
10+ Years
Posts: 120
Joined: Fri Mar 31, 2006 12:43 pm
Zip Code: 14005

Re: "International Cub" Stainless Hood Emblem - Bad Fit

Postby Larry in WNY » Wed May 01, 2019 10:06 am

I have Farmall Cub stainless emblems for my 1958 from Steiner and they fit perfectly. Maybe an issue with International Cub version.
Larry

User avatar
Don McCombs
Team Cub Mentor
Team Cub Mentor
Posts: 13716
Joined: Mon Feb 03, 2003 6:45 am
Zip Code: 21550
Tractors Owned: "1950 Something" Farmall Cub
1957 Farmall Cub w/FH
1977 International Cub w/FH
1978 International Cub
1948 Farmall Super A
Circle of Safety: Y
Location: MD, Deep Creek Lake

Re: "International Cub" Stainless Hood Emblem - Bad Fit

Postby Don McCombs » Wed May 01, 2019 10:38 am

If the pins are soldered in place, they may be able to be moved.
Don McCombs
MD, Deep Creek Lake

Image
Proud Member of Maryland Chapter 39

tst
5+ Years
5+ Years
Posts: 3161
Joined: Tue Jan 12, 2010 2:08 pm
Zip Code: 12514
Circle of Safety: Y

Re: "International Cub" Stainless Hood Emblem - Bad Fit

Postby tst » Wed May 01, 2019 10:39 am

Steiner repops a lot of parts that could not be found to keep the old tractors working, the bad part is some is junk and some is good, many times with the overseas parts you do not find out what is bad or good until you buy it and go to use it, so you only learn from experience what to buy and not to buy, I have found most electrical from overseas is worthless, I bought one of their battery boxes and it was ok, so I bought more and they were all junk, they have poor quality control with the repro items, so it is a love hate relationship with them and other places like them, love because they have what you need and hate because of the poor quality and fit
Myself I try and use USA parts, new or old before I buy the overseas parts

User avatar
Urbish
5+ Years
5+ Years
Posts: 1713
Joined: Sat Sep 07, 2013 3:45 pm
Zip Code: 48158
Tractors Owned: ~
1958 International Cub LoBoy
1948 Farmall Cub
1947 Farmall H
1946 Farmall B
1953 Willys CJ3B

Cub-193 Moldboard Plow
Cub-54A Leveling and Grader Blade
Cub Loboy L-54 Leveling and Grader Blade
Unknown 5' Single Gang Disc Harrow
Circle of Safety: Y
Location: Manchester, MI

Re: "International Cub" Stainless Hood Emblem - Bad Fit

Postby Urbish » Wed May 01, 2019 10:40 am

Don McCombs wrote:If the pins are soldered in place, they may be able to be moved.


I was concerned about the heat from soldering affecting the shine and color of the stainless, so I snipped those two pins off. I'll use trim tape as Dale suggests.

Jim Becker
Team Cub
Team Cub
Posts: 14118
Joined: Sun Feb 02, 2003 2:59 pm
Zip Code: 55319
Circle of Safety: Y
Location: MN

Re: "International Cub" Stainless Hood Emblem - Bad Fit

Postby Jim Becker » Wed May 01, 2019 10:51 am

Urbish wrote:
Shane N. wrote:So IH put the hole in the hood in the wrong place is what's going on here? :roll:


Exactly. The kicker is that it is only about 1/16" off, so you can't "drill a new hole" without it picking up the edge of the original hole. There is no way I'm going to slot holes in my hood to make a poorly fabricated aftermarket item fit.

Yeah, the IH emblem fits the IH hood but the aftermarket "reproduction" emblem doesn't. Obviously a problem with the hood.

I agree, it would be nice if the vendor acknowledged the deficiency of the part and said up front that there were problems getting the part to fit. I think most people would understand if they just said there is a problem but it you can deal with it and it is the best available.

This is a lot like a vendor that refuses to acknowledge that the fingers on an aftermarket pressure plate need to be adjusted.

It also reminds me of a guy that couldn't find a specific version of a model decal. One decal specialist said describe it and we can make some. He did. They send a drawing. He made corrections. They corrected and sent an updated drawing. After a few cycles of this, he sent a reply to the effect of "You almost have it, just do xxxx and you've got it." They sent another drawing with xxxx but they changed the color of another part of the decal (I think it was white but had turned black.). So he replied, "The design is right but you need to change this black part back to white." They responded, "Fine but we already printed a couple hundred with black. We'll change it when we reprint after all these are used up."

Waif
501 Club
501 Club
Posts: 669
Joined: Thu Aug 25, 2016 1:29 pm
Zip Code: 49343
Tractors Owned: 48 Farmall Cub "Seen Yore Dobbin"
53 F-Cub W/Loader.
Circle of Safety: Y
Location: Michigan

Re: "International Cub" Stainless Hood Emblem - Bad Fit

Postby Waif » Wed May 01, 2019 12:12 pm

Out of spec parts.....
Either modify them or return them.
Easy to say , I know.
Was involved in supplying auto parts to manufacturers quite a while.

Had parts returned broken in pieces with the claim the locating studs were off spec..

Confirmed they were not , and that the holes for them (the auto builders end of that deal) were off from those given during layout process.

Workers held a padded two by four against the part (a rocker panel) and whacked it a few times. Never minding while breaking them they might not be the suppliers fault.
Though that can happen too. Specs are specs ..

Way too much money for a tractor emblem(s) to not fit. Let alone the principle .
Ya , I know....There is nothing that cannot be made cheaper and sold for more money...

tarawa
Posts: 47
Joined: Sun Mar 04, 2018 9:28 pm
Zip Code: 33470

Re: "International Cub" Stainless Hood Emblem - Bad Fit

Postby tarawa » Tue May 07, 2019 1:18 pm

I purchased NOS International emblems for my ‘61 Cub. I bought a beautiful hood from Dale ( here on the forums). None of the pins line up. I hated to drill any more holes in that nice hood, so I went on ebay and bought a half dozen round rare earth magnets. I ground off the pins and then I epoxied the magnets ( 3 on each side) to the back of the emblem. Works perfect and won’t come off unless you want them to!

I am not sure what year these emblems were made for.

I think that there were just too many variations.
6D970E62-8FB7-4698-B143-A8D464486646.jpeg

User avatar
Don McCombs
Team Cub Mentor
Team Cub Mentor
Posts: 13716
Joined: Mon Feb 03, 2003 6:45 am
Zip Code: 21550
Tractors Owned: "1950 Something" Farmall Cub
1957 Farmall Cub w/FH
1977 International Cub w/FH
1978 International Cub
1948 Farmall Super A
Circle of Safety: Y
Location: MD, Deep Creek Lake

Re: "International Cub" Stainless Hood Emblem - Bad Fit

Postby Don McCombs » Tue May 07, 2019 3:45 pm

Those emblems are for a late 58 to 63 tractor. You have a late 54 to early 58 hood.
Don McCombs
MD, Deep Creek Lake

Image
Proud Member of Maryland Chapter 39


  • Similar Topics
    Replies
    Views
    Last post

Return to “Farmall Cub”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: tenn terry t and 5 guests