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1954Frank
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Engine Stuck

Postby 1954Frank » Wed May 08, 2019 10:43 am

Previously I posted pictures and story of a nice red 57 Cub that was for sale near me. Well, it's gone now. The man still has a 57 Cub parts tractor with mower that I mentioned earlier. The engine is stuck. How stuck, I don't know. What's the worst case? Frozen and burst cylinder wall? I'm not really interested in getting another block... But if it's only a piston rusted in a cylinder, I think I can handle that. About 15 years ago I got a 1950 Chevy 216 unstuck without removing the head. It turned out to be a good running engine.

Maybe this one will be that simple/easy to fix. Given the unknowns, what's the maximum low-ball offer I should make? Pictures later. Thanks.

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Re: Engine Stuck

Postby ntrenn » Wed May 08, 2019 9:20 pm

If it’s a complete parts tractor....with good rubber, $500 is fair. Way lower if unusable rubber. I paid that 5-6 years back for a 65 loboy and it’s been mowing and pushing snow pretty much ever since...quite the little baby bulldozer. It just had a rusted in number 4, and I still had close to $300 in parts to get it running. Rings, hone, head bolts, gaskets, hoses....you know the cub mission creep...

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Re: Engine Stuck

Postby inairam » Thu May 09, 2019 5:59 am

It is a risk but I like the 57s they had the most "bling" on the sheet metal in my opinion. I have to the philosophy of get it when you see it if the price is low enough. Maybe a late 50s runner shows up in 6 months and you have a great parts tractor for your runner.
When you only have 9 horsepower you need to know the names of all of the ponies!

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Re: Engine Stuck

Postby ajhbike » Thu May 09, 2019 6:22 am

Cub mission creep... I completely understand!

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Re: Engine Stuck

Postby outdoors4evr » Thu May 09, 2019 7:22 am

In your area, I'd be looking close to ntrenn's number - maybe a Ben Franklin less.
Worst case is the engine block & the front bolster is toast. With non-runners, you need to be looking near scrap metal prices.
Either you need a rear end to rescue another tractor or this one gets enough parts to make it a work horse.
- Implements can make overpaying for a cub worth while. See if they have any around to go with it.
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1954Frank
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Re: Engine Stuck

Postby 1954Frank » Thu May 09, 2019 7:50 am

Thanks. I was thinking 400-450 plus 100 for the mower.

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Also owned a 1955-1st Series Chevrolet Pickup,
then a 1950 Chevrolet Pickup,
then another 1950 Chevrolet Pickup.

Re: Engine Stuck

Postby 1954Frank » Thu May 09, 2019 12:11 pm

Three pictures. Sorry it's hard to see the mower well. I talk about it in another thread. It's 5' wide with 3 blades, 2 gauge wheels and parts to a lifting frame on the tractor. Anybody recognize the mower make/model? Thanks.
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Re: Engine Stuck

Postby Waif » Thu May 09, 2019 12:35 pm

Couple hundred for the tractor maybe.
Rear tire/wheel on viewer side looks usable.If the wheel and tire on the offside rear is usable too I'd feel better about a couple hundred.
Floor pan is toast. Non stock seat.
Rear rockshaft worth a couple bucks and some other bits and pieces, maybe.
No assurance that any piece is usable though. Or has a solid value. And the same with internal pieces until removed , (sometimes fun and laborious enough just removing if they look worn or funky ) cleaned and inspected ,and tested if you're picky....

"Ruffer en a cob" for a project.
My 2 cent opinion is that I would have more time and money into it getting it in halfway decent usable shape , than flat out buying a better one with some patient looking/shopping.

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Tractors Owned: 1948 with international 1000 loader 6v - Dozer
1949 with kub klipper belly mower. mag 6v - Mom
1950 with plow, 54 blade, mott mag 6v - Roxanne
1953 54 blade, c22, wood 42 6v
1957 with c-2 mower & c-54 grader blade 6v - barn Queen
1965 lo-boy with c-3 mower 12 v - Loboy
1975 with homemade mower 12 v - Horse
1979 long strip 12 v
Memberships: Rough and Tumble Engineers Historical Association;Chapter 8 IH Collectors; IH Collectors Worldwide
Circle of Safety: Y
Location: Glen Mills PA

Re: Engine Stuck

Postby inairam » Thu May 09, 2019 1:02 pm

the "farmall cub" emblems go for some money on ebay as does the 11 bar grill it is not all beat up. It has a tach mount and assumes the correct distributor base for the tach. Plus for some people

The hood sheet metal looks good to me. I would buy it for 500-600 for parts but I have a 57 club project and some of the parts are better than I have.

That mower to me is worthless. I would expect that to come with the tractor.
When you only have 9 horsepower you need to know the names of all of the ponies!

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65 Lo-boy 19648 with an un-stuck #4 - it lives!!!
144 Cultivators with disc hillers
193 Plow
42C mower
59L mower mounted on the Fcub
23A Disc - lost possession
Circle of Safety: Y
Location: Indiana

Re: Engine Stuck

Postby ntrenn » Thu May 09, 2019 5:56 pm

If you need rear tires, you will spend upwards of $400 on just tires. Buy the tires and take the tractor and mower off their hands...

If you want a tach, go price one...and you will buy the tractor to get the tach.

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Re: Engine Stuck

Postby Hairy Moose Knuckles » Thu May 09, 2019 6:55 pm

I'd walk, but that's just me.
:tractor: Its me, Ant-Knee :tractor:

1954Frank
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Re: Engine Stuck

Postby 1954Frank » Thu May 09, 2019 9:34 pm

Thanks for all responses.

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Re: Engine Stuck

Postby Scrivet » Thu May 09, 2019 10:13 pm

8 volt battery to me means electrical system deficient before the demise. I think $500 +or- $100 depending on how bad you want/need it, how "near" near me is, how difficult it is for you to transport, and how much available cash is in your Cub fund. Doubling my estimate would most likely get you one you could drive onto the trailer instead of dragging it on. I doubt you'll be driving this one for that amount. Would I buy it? No, but I already have four Cubs. If I had none or one I would.

1954Frank
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No tractors now.
Also owned a 1955-1st Series Chevrolet Pickup,
then a 1950 Chevrolet Pickup,
then another 1950 Chevrolet Pickup.

Re: Engine Stuck

Postby 1954Frank » Sat May 11, 2019 8:11 am

All good ideas to consider. I don't have a trailer that will haul it, but can borrow one. That mower would have to lifted or dragged onto a trailer then off again. I have no indoor storage, unless something else I have goes outside... So, really I guess, I shouldn't buy it. That's what my wife would say. Sometimes she's more practical than me. :) But...
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