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Re: Picture

Postby john2189 » Tue Jan 28, 2020 7:57 pm

radioguy41 wrote:
Jim Becker wrote:
radioguy41 wrote:By moving that big tire outward like that (offset) you increase . . .

Any more so than when the original wheels are set for a 56" track? Without measuring, I don't think so.

There is a lot more outboard weight and hence leverage on that one. Look how deep the rim is, well beyond the Cub 56" setting.

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radioguy41 wrote:. . . In that photo above I would also expect the center disc of the wheels to eventually crack and fail because the bolt pattern is concentrated close to the center rather than spread out closer to the rim for that size tire.

The same bolt pattern as the center disk on any Cub. Unclear why it becomes a problem in this situation.

There is a lot more outboard weight and hence leverage on that one that can cause the center disc to flex beyond design capacity.


How can you compare a 24” wheel with a separate center disc to a 16” one peace wheel that is designed for the offset? Like I said above, they work on a numbered cub with no problems.

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Re: Picture

Postby radioguy41 » Tue Jan 28, 2020 9:24 pm

True, they do work on a numbered Cub but not with those tires. Those tires are larger by a fair amount which adds more leveraged offset weight. Not trying to get into a piddling contest, just offering my opinion based on my experience. Hey, if somebody wants to do that it's fine but they shouldn't be surprised if the axle bearings fail, that's all I'm saying. :surrender:
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Re: Picture

Postby john2189 » Tue Jan 28, 2020 10:20 pm

Ok
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Postby Don McCombs » Tue Jan 28, 2020 10:37 pm

Not trying to prolong this discussion, but it appears to be the exact configuration as is on the 184.

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Postby outdoors4evr » Wed Jan 29, 2020 7:39 am

I think I'm with Don on this. It may be "harder" on the equipment, but clearly it is handled well by the numbered lowboys. We aren't seeing a rash of bearing or axle failures on the numbered series tractors, but I'll also admit that the numbered series doesn't spend a lot of hours doing hard pulling. Most hours are spent mowing with just a few hours a year spent pushing snow.

I definitely see this as easier on the axles than a cub set to wide with two sets of wheel weights and a couple weights sitting on the drawbar.
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Re: Picture

Postby john2189 » Wed Jan 29, 2020 8:32 am

My yard is rough and the 8.3 turf tires seems to hit every hole. I just thought that the larger numbered cub tires might be easier on my back.

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Re: Picture

Postby Eugene » Wed Jan 29, 2020 11:23 am

john2189 wrote:My yard is rough and the 8.3 turf tires seems to hit every hole. I just thought that the larger numbered cub tires might be easier on my back.
I have a standard Cub with ag tires and a 154 with balloon tires. The 154 is more comfortable driving, easier on my back.

If you are thinking about purchasing balloon type rims and tires for your standard Cub, probably cheaper to purchase a complete 184.
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Re: Picture

Postby john2189 » Wed Jan 29, 2020 1:47 pm

Eugene wrote:
john2189 wrote:My yard is rough and the 8.3 turf tires seems to hit every hole. I just thought that the larger numbered cub tires might be easier on my back.
I have a standard Cub with ag tires and a 154 with balloon tires. The 154 is more comfortable driving, easier on my back.

If you are thinking about purchasing balloon type rims and tires for your standard Cub, probably cheaper to purchase a complete 184.



I kinda thought that too. I do have a 154 with a mower that I can borrow the tires from until I get it fixed up. Just wish it was a woods mower.
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Re: Picture

Postby Denny Clayton » Thu Jan 30, 2020 11:51 am

Barnyard wrote:cub29bigtires.jpg

If I'm not mistaken, I think that tractor passed through my barnyard on a relay stop. :treadmil:
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Re: Picture

Postby Barnyard » Thu Jan 30, 2020 12:02 pm

Denny Clayton wrote:
Barnyard wrote:cub29bigtires.jpg

If I'm not mistaken, I think that tractor passed through my barnyard on a relay stop. :treadmil:

Yes, and we had to swap tires so it would fit on my trailer for the ride home. :D

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Re: Picture

Postby Denny Clayton » Thu Jan 30, 2020 12:40 pm

Barnyard wrote:
Denny Clayton wrote:
Barnyard wrote:cub29bigtires.jpg

If I'm not mistaken, I think that tractor passed through my barnyard on a relay stop. :treadmil:

Yes, and we had to swap tires so it would fit on my trailer for the ride home. :D

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Yep, that's my barnyard all right. I forgot about changing the tires. That's been a while, .....about 10 years?
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Re: Picture

Postby Barnyard » Thu Jan 30, 2020 12:47 pm

Denny Clayton wrote:That's been a while, .....about 10 years?

Yep, ten years in May. We loaded a lathe or bender on Rick's trailer.
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Re: Picture

Postby CapeCodCubs » Thu Jan 30, 2020 6:35 pm

Ok, I had a numbered tires on one of my Cubs. It was cool but just too wide.

Here is a video of mine knocking down a garden and tall weeds. Bob Perry’s back field. Either he or his son Jim Dawg made the video.
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Re: Picture

Postby john2189 » Thu Jan 30, 2020 8:02 pm

That is wide. Would be too wide for a 5 foot mower
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Re: Picture

Postby CapeCodCubs » Thu Jan 30, 2020 8:42 pm

john2189 wrote:That is wide. Would be too wide for a 5 foot mower

Not too wide at all. The mower extends past the rear tire. I actually loved how it mowed and felt driving with those tires. Too wide for the long narrow Cub house and too wide for my trailer. I was going put early cadet rears on the front and had one of those brush guards someone down south makes but common sense prevailing and went back to ag tires. Hard to row crop with those too.
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