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BobRiley
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1949 cub

Postby BobRiley » Sun Apr 26, 2020 7:42 am

Hi guys,
Got my cub home, drove it around a bit. Don't run too well but I backed it into the garage, shut it off and came back later and it would not start. Nothing when I depress starter button. Do these go bad very often or would it be the starter and how do I check? It was converted over to a 12 volt system by someone else but it looks to be the original 6 volt starter.

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Re: 1949 cub

Postby inairam » Sun Apr 26, 2020 8:46 am

Bob - welcome to the forum. The 49 would not have a push-button starter. I do not think you can post pictures until you have done a few posts and I do not think there is enough info to make a guess.

A few things to try un till you can post some photos.

1) Check the voltage on the battery should be over 12 volts plus. if low try jumping it.
2) Check the cables from the battery to the solenoid ( if the PO installed in the 12v conversion if it has a momentary switch like to push a button it may have a solenoid ) and to the starter.
3) Check the ground cable - clean it and maybe bolt it to another location like one of the bolts on the gear shit cover plate.
4) if installed, make sure the solenoid is getting 12 volts when the switch is on.

Good luck
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Re: 1949 cub

Postby Waif » Sun Apr 26, 2020 6:24 pm

Clean electrical connections and a fully charged battery first...
Then check for a current draw draining your battery when it sets. Light switch on or something.

Could just be either bad connections ,or a tired battery due to tractors charging system not working ,or too many short runs.

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Re: 1949 cub

Postby Glen » Sun Apr 26, 2020 6:55 pm

Hi,
Welcome to the website.

The Cub operator's manual can help you learn about maintenance that the Cub needs.

Below is the 1949 Cub operator's manual. The experts on here recommend people read it. It has lots of info about operation, maintenance, and lubrication. There is a table of contents on page 1.
It shows how Cubs originally looked in it. The lube section begins on page 14.

http://farmallcub.com/rudi_cub/www.clea ... index.html

This manual shows the electrical system that a 1949 Cub originally had.
Cubs made before mid 1964 originally had 6 volt, positive ground electrical systems.

The recommendation in the manual to use 10W oil in the Touch Control was changed later to Case IH Hy-Tran fluid. It is sold at Case IH dealers.

I would check or change all the oils before using the Cub. Using it with low oil in a gear housing can damage the parts in the housing.
There are 3 separate gear housings, with 3 separate oil levels to check, in the rear area of a Cub, the transmission, and 2 final drives.

The transmissions in Cubs commonly get water in them, from rain, or condensation inside the housing over time. :)

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Re: 1949 cub

Postby BobRiley » Tue Apr 28, 2020 5:43 am

The button on the starter motor is what the problem is. took it off and cleaned it and the contact point on the starter motor itself but its pretty worn. Are these rebuildable or will I have to replace it?

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Re: 1949 cub

Postby Don McCombs » Tue Apr 28, 2020 6:00 am

The switch on the starter is easily and inexpensively replaceable. The copper contact button on the starter body can be replaced by a good auto electric shop. I'd start by replacing the switch.

http://www.tmtractor.com/new/el/2543fp.htm
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Re: 1949 cub

Postby Stanton » Tue Apr 28, 2020 6:06 am

Good advice above. Welcome to the Forum!

Take some time and read through a few threads to acquaint yourself with the Forum:

Don't know if you have all the manuals to your Cub, but now that you’ve logged your 2nd post, you'll have access to the all the PDF Manuals on this site. They are located via "Quick Links" in the upper left corner of your screen. Hit that and a pull-down appears where you'll find "PDF Manuals". Through that link, you'll be able to download an Owner's Manual (as Glen mentioned above) and any service manuals that interest you. You'll be able to familiarize yourself with your new-to-you Cub more quickly. Implement Manuals are also available.

We’d encourage you to take the Safety Test located in the Safety Forum: http://farmallcub.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=68084

Might also enjoy reading through this thread (even though it’s for a Cub, much can be applied to any tractor just brought home): What to do with a Cub you just brought home

There are a lot of good threads dealing with Cub repair and maintenance in the How To Forum. Located here: http://farmallcub.com/phpBB2/viewforum.php?f=11

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