This site uses cookies to maintain login information on FarmallCub.Com. Click the X in the banner upper right corner to close this notice. For more information on our privacy policy, visit this link:
Privacy Policy

NEW REGISTERED MEMBERS: Be sure to check your SPAM/JUNK folders for the activation email.

Mislevel Woods 42C-4

The Cub Club -- Questions and answers to all of your Cub related issues.
Forum rules
Notice: For sale and wanted posts are not allowed in this forum. Please use our free classifieds or one of our site sponsors for your tractor and parts needs.
User avatar
Greenthumbfarms
Cub Star!!
Cub Star!!
Posts: 398
Joined: Mon Jun 29, 2020 4:59 pm
Zip Code: 60450
Tractors Owned: 1974 Cub Cadet 1450
1977 Cub Cadet 1650

1950 Farmall Cub (Georgette)
1956 Farmall 230 (Gladys)
1959 Farmall 240 Utility (Heather)
1962 John Deere 4010 Gas with No.45 Loader (Helen)
1966 John Deere 4020 Deisel (Jack)
1975 International Cub (Ozzie)
Circle of Safety: Y

Re: Mislevel Woods 42C-4

Postby Greenthumbfarms » Thu Sep 10, 2020 9:30 pm

Looks like the mule drive is sitting level to me, so ill have to check the deck and see if it is square when i take it off
Attachments
20200908_101219.jpg
20200908_101217.jpg
Secretary with Will County Threshermens Association (Will County, Illinois)
62nd Annual Will County Threshermens gas and steam tractor show July 18-21, 2024 featuring JI Case Steam and gas tractors. All makes welcome
https://www.steamshow.org/

SPONSOR AD

Sponsor



Sponsor
 

User avatar
Don McCombs
Team Cub Mentor
Team Cub Mentor
Posts: 17488
Joined: Mon Feb 03, 2003 6:45 am
Zip Code: 21550
Tractors Owned: "1950 Something" Farmall Cub
1957 Farmall Cub w/FH
1977 International Cub w/FH
1978 International Cub
1948 Farmall Super A
Circle of Safety: Y
Location: MD, Deep Creek Lake

Re: Mislevel Woods 42C-4

Postby Don McCombs » Fri Sep 11, 2020 6:07 pm

I agree. From that angle, it looks good.
Don McCombs
MD, Deep Creek Lake

Image
Proud Member of Maryland Chapter 39

The best teachers are those who show you where to look, but don't tell you what to see.
A. K. Trenfor

User avatar
Greenthumbfarms
Cub Star!!
Cub Star!!
Posts: 398
Joined: Mon Jun 29, 2020 4:59 pm
Zip Code: 60450
Tractors Owned: 1974 Cub Cadet 1450
1977 Cub Cadet 1650

1950 Farmall Cub (Georgette)
1956 Farmall 230 (Gladys)
1959 Farmall 240 Utility (Heather)
1962 John Deere 4010 Gas with No.45 Loader (Helen)
1966 John Deere 4020 Deisel (Jack)
1975 International Cub (Ozzie)
Circle of Safety: Y

Re: Mislevel Woods 42C-4

Postby Greenthumbfarms » Sun Sep 13, 2020 8:16 am

One other thing I have wanted to find out...my 42C-4 has the two mount holes at the back of the arms...would it be I'll advised to cut the rear ones off so I can raise the rear of the deck to higher mount holes? The belt won't allow it any higher, so the mower's rear has stayed too low
Secretary with Will County Threshermens Association (Will County, Illinois)
62nd Annual Will County Threshermens gas and steam tractor show July 18-21, 2024 featuring JI Case Steam and gas tractors. All makes welcome
https://www.steamshow.org/

User avatar
Don McCombs
Team Cub Mentor
Team Cub Mentor
Posts: 17488
Joined: Mon Feb 03, 2003 6:45 am
Zip Code: 21550
Tractors Owned: "1950 Something" Farmall Cub
1957 Farmall Cub w/FH
1977 International Cub w/FH
1978 International Cub
1948 Farmall Super A
Circle of Safety: Y
Location: MD, Deep Creek Lake

Re: Mislevel Woods 42C-4

Postby Don McCombs » Sun Sep 13, 2020 11:17 am

I’m not sure I understand how cutting off the two rear holes will make the mower ride higher.
Don McCombs
MD, Deep Creek Lake

Image
Proud Member of Maryland Chapter 39

The best teachers are those who show you where to look, but don't tell you what to see.
A. K. Trenfor

Nelson 634
5+ Years
5+ Years
Posts: 308
Joined: Thu May 24, 2018 9:57 pm
Zip Code: 22958
Tractors Owned: 5 Cubs
1952 100
1960 460 Utility
Location: Central Va.

Re: Mislevel Woods 42C-4

Postby Nelson 634 » Sun Sep 13, 2020 3:50 pm

I would not cut the rear holes off. I think based on the entirety of this thread that your problem with one side being up as was pointed out earlier. It has a twist in the frame. Take the mower deck with the arms to the back off of the tractor. Place on a smooth even surface and straighten the twist. Once the twist is out, then you can adjust the height. My guess is the deck was set down on something just under the left side or ran up over something. The key here is fix the first problem then if you still have a rear height problem, deal with it separately. That means mowing with it to be certain you have a problem any longer. My guess is the second height problem will be gone.
Walter

User avatar
Greenthumbfarms
Cub Star!!
Cub Star!!
Posts: 398
Joined: Mon Jun 29, 2020 4:59 pm
Zip Code: 60450
Tractors Owned: 1974 Cub Cadet 1450
1977 Cub Cadet 1650

1950 Farmall Cub (Georgette)
1956 Farmall 230 (Gladys)
1959 Farmall 240 Utility (Heather)
1962 John Deere 4010 Gas with No.45 Loader (Helen)
1966 John Deere 4020 Deisel (Jack)
1975 International Cub (Ozzie)
Circle of Safety: Y

Re: Mislevel Woods 42C-4

Postby Greenthumbfarms » Sun Sep 13, 2020 4:58 pm

Well the rear height problem is an entirely different issue. Having the 2 sets of rear mounting holes prevents me from setting the rear height any higher than it is. Moving it up means moving it forward, and the belt will not loosen any further to allow the deck forward/up. I had figured removing the resr mount holes on the frame arms of the mower would allow it to sit back when I raise the rear mount adjustment.
Secretary with Will County Threshermens Association (Will County, Illinois)
62nd Annual Will County Threshermens gas and steam tractor show July 18-21, 2024 featuring JI Case Steam and gas tractors. All makes welcome
https://www.steamshow.org/

User avatar
Don McCombs
Team Cub Mentor
Team Cub Mentor
Posts: 17488
Joined: Mon Feb 03, 2003 6:45 am
Zip Code: 21550
Tractors Owned: "1950 Something" Farmall Cub
1957 Farmall Cub w/FH
1977 International Cub w/FH
1978 International Cub
1948 Farmall Super A
Circle of Safety: Y
Location: MD, Deep Creek Lake

Re: Mislevel Woods 42C-4

Postby Don McCombs » Sun Sep 13, 2020 6:08 pm

Get a longer belt.
Don McCombs
MD, Deep Creek Lake

Image
Proud Member of Maryland Chapter 39

The best teachers are those who show you where to look, but don't tell you what to see.
A. K. Trenfor

Clemsonfor
501 Club
501 Club
Posts: 1118
Joined: Sun Nov 10, 2019 5:14 pm
Zip Code: 29848
Tractors Owned: Yanmar YM2000
Yanmar YM186 (non running)
1952 Farmall Cub
Circle of Safety: Y
Location: Greenwood County SC

Re: Mislevel Woods 42C-4

Postby Clemsonfor » Sun Sep 13, 2020 6:58 pm

Don McCombs wrote:Get a longer belt.

I was going to say this very thing.

Mht
5+ Years
5+ Years
Posts: 408
Joined: Sun Jul 08, 2018 9:02 pm
Zip Code: 27606
Tractors Owned: 1949 farmall cub(building from parts) 1950 farmall cub
1971 David Brown 880 selectamatic
Circle of Safety: Y

Re: Mislevel Woods 42C-4

Postby Mht » Sun Sep 13, 2020 7:09 pm

Your belt is probably too short. It looks like the adjustment of your idler pulleys is maxed out. The belt should be long enough to work with the deck in any of the mounting holes. I don’t know the correct length right of the top of my head but I’m sure some one else will chime in. I agree with others that if you fix the root cause of the problem there will be no need to cut your mounts

User avatar
Greenthumbfarms
Cub Star!!
Cub Star!!
Posts: 398
Joined: Mon Jun 29, 2020 4:59 pm
Zip Code: 60450
Tractors Owned: 1974 Cub Cadet 1450
1977 Cub Cadet 1650

1950 Farmall Cub (Georgette)
1956 Farmall 230 (Gladys)
1959 Farmall 240 Utility (Heather)
1962 John Deere 4010 Gas with No.45 Loader (Helen)
1966 John Deere 4020 Deisel (Jack)
1975 International Cub (Ozzie)
Circle of Safety: Y

Re: Mislevel Woods 42C-4

Postby Greenthumbfarms » Sun Sep 13, 2020 7:45 pm

That was the belt the woods dealer got for me, and they checked that is was for a 42C-4
Secretary with Will County Threshermens Association (Will County, Illinois)
62nd Annual Will County Threshermens gas and steam tractor show July 18-21, 2024 featuring JI Case Steam and gas tractors. All makes welcome
https://www.steamshow.org/

Scrivet
10+ Years
10+ Years
Posts: 2929
Joined: Sun Apr 19, 2009 9:51 pm
Zip Code: 63664
Location: MO, Potosi

Re: Mislevel Woods 42C-4

Postby Scrivet » Sun Sep 13, 2020 8:15 pm

Geenthumbfarms wrote:Well the rear height problem is an entirely different issue. Having the 2 sets of rear mounting holes prevents me from setting the rear height any higher than it is. Moving it up means moving it forward, and the belt will not loosen any further to allow the deck forward/up. I had figured removing the resr mount holes on the frame arms of the mower would allow it to sit back when I raise the rear mount adjustment.

The mounting holes on the mule drive go forward as they go higher. I don't know the exact measurements but let's say each hole is one inch higher and one inch forward. So the one inch shorter distance from the PTO pulley to the hinge point is taken up by the now one inch longer distance from hinge point to the spindle. The same length belt can be used in any position, provided you have the correct belt to start with, which gives you the ability to properly adjust the mule drive pulleys to be in line with the spindle when in the operating position. Basically following the arm mounting point, if they're mounted low the mule drive pulleys should be low to align with the spindle. Move the arms higher and the mule drive pulleys should go up as well to stay in line with the spindle. As has been mentioned, your belt looks short because you have the arms in the lower position and the mule drive pulleys way up top. The belt and mower are designed so that when the deck is raised the belt has some slack and tightens up as it is lowered into the level position.

42C-4 takes a Woods 1469 which is a 5/8 x 136" outside length belt, usually a B133 but different manufacturers have different numbering systems.

Edit: Sorry didn't see your
That was the belt the woods dealer got for me, and they checked that is was for a 42C-4
reply. I'd look for a number on it and if you can't find that I'd measure it. Are the mule drive pulleys and the PTO pulleys the correct diameter? That belt just doesn't fit right in my opinion.

Jim Becker
Team Cub
Team Cub
Posts: 17278
Joined: Sun Feb 02, 2003 2:59 pm
Zip Code: 55319
Circle of Safety: Y
Location: MN

Re: Mislevel Woods 42C-4

Postby Jim Becker » Sun Sep 13, 2020 8:48 pm

May just be the picture, but it looks to me like one of the mounting arms (probably the right) is bent. Are you sure the idler pulleys are the right diameter?

User avatar
Greenthumbfarms
Cub Star!!
Cub Star!!
Posts: 398
Joined: Mon Jun 29, 2020 4:59 pm
Zip Code: 60450
Tractors Owned: 1974 Cub Cadet 1450
1977 Cub Cadet 1650

1950 Farmall Cub (Georgette)
1956 Farmall 230 (Gladys)
1959 Farmall 240 Utility (Heather)
1962 John Deere 4010 Gas with No.45 Loader (Helen)
1966 John Deere 4020 Deisel (Jack)
1975 International Cub (Ozzie)
Circle of Safety: Y

Re: Mislevel Woods 42C-4

Postby Greenthumbfarms » Sun Sep 13, 2020 9:45 pm

I'm not quite sure what size the idlers should be. I'm still a fairly new cub owner
Secretary with Will County Threshermens Association (Will County, Illinois)
62nd Annual Will County Threshermens gas and steam tractor show July 18-21, 2024 featuring JI Case Steam and gas tractors. All makes welcome
https://www.steamshow.org/

Jim Becker
Team Cub
Team Cub
Posts: 17278
Joined: Sun Feb 02, 2003 2:59 pm
Zip Code: 55319
Circle of Safety: Y
Location: MN

Re: Mislevel Woods 42C-4

Postby Jim Becker » Sun Sep 13, 2020 11:00 pm

Geenthumbfarms wrote:I'm not quite sure what size the idlers should be. I'm still a fairly new cub owner

Measure them and post it here. Somebody will be able to check against their mower.

Nelson 634
5+ Years
5+ Years
Posts: 308
Joined: Thu May 24, 2018 9:57 pm
Zip Code: 22958
Tractors Owned: 5 Cubs
1952 100
1960 460 Utility
Location: Central Va.

Re: Mislevel Woods 42C-4

Postby Nelson 634 » Sun Sep 13, 2020 11:12 pm

As Scrivet said "The mounting holes on the mule drive go forward as they go higher." It looks like it is a 45 degree slope that means its 1 over and 1 up with the 90 degrees the idler pulleys it creates the same length between PTO pulley and mower deck pulley. Pretty smart engineers. If the mounting holes were vertical it would change the length between the PTO and mower deck pulley.
Walter


Return to “Farmall Cub”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 64 guests