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Electronic voltage regulators

Postby Stevetractor » Tue Oct 13, 2020 6:01 pm

10 years ago, I sent two shot 6v Cub voltage regulators to a gentleman in Massachusetts. He removed the insides and replaced them with a solid state system. Externally they look and wire the same with no issues. Unfortunately, he has since passed on and the business closed. Anyone out there know of someone who does this type of work or could point me in the right direction of someone?
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Re: Electronic voltage regulators

Postby andersonbw » Wed Oct 14, 2020 6:16 pm

I spent about a year -- off and on -- looking for exactly the same thing. There was a company (I think in California) that did this for several years but the gentleman that ran the company passed away and doesn't do it any more.

Sorry I can't offer any help but I sure would like to find out if you find someone. :)

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Re: Electronic voltage regulators

Postby Mht » Wed Oct 14, 2020 6:42 pm

The Brillman company offers several solid state regulators and cutout relays that look small enough to fit under the cover of a mechanical relay. I don’t know if they would wire up the same or actually fit inside a mechanical regulator but I’m sure a phone call to John would provide some insight.

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Re: Electronic voltage regulators

Postby Super A » Thu Oct 15, 2020 7:35 am

Do some googling. I've seen stuff posted in the past where people bought a diode and installed it inside the old regulator/relay box.

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Re: Electronic voltage regulators

Postby John *.?-!.* cub owner » Thu Oct 15, 2020 11:26 am

Super A wrote:Do some googling. I've seen stuff posted in the past where people bought a diode and installed it inside the old regulator/relay box.Al
The diode works in place of the cutouts, but does not replace a regulator. If using a diode you need to have the H-L-D-B light switch and use the H and L to control the charge rate.
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Re: Electronic voltage regulators

Postby Frozenstate » Thu Oct 15, 2020 11:45 am

new positive earth compact ELECTRONIC SOLID STATE 6 volt DC VOLTAGE REGULATOR 6v
Google the info above and there are ones that may fit in your regulator case. These, I believe will only work with a regulator, not cutout.

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Re: Electronic voltage regulators

Postby inairam » Thu Oct 15, 2020 12:09 pm

I purchased some from this company and did it myself. https://www.dynamoregulators.com/dvr4.php dvr4p I was using a company from California but the guy retired and closed the business. If you find another company/ product you have to make sure it is an "A circuit" regulator.
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Re: Electronic voltage regulators

Postby John *.?-!.* cub owner » Thu Oct 15, 2020 12:33 pm

Inaram, the one you posted has been sold to Electrodynamic and they only offer the 12 volt version.

I found some old references from back in 2016 where a member had installed a solid state unit made by Clover Systems inside his original regulator housing. Unfortunately it appears that The Clover Systems that made that unit is no more. Clover Systems is now a computer information company, do not know if they changed, or if it is a completely different company.
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Re: Electronic voltage regulators

Postby nwfan1 » Thu Oct 15, 2020 1:58 pm

All,

Seems like these solid state regulators wouldn't be too hard to put together, but I've looked into this a few times and I haven't found a circuit I can use to build one from. Anybody run across a circuit designed for this application?

There must also be a way to bench test mechanical regulators, but I haven't had much luck finding any info on that either.
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Re: Electronic voltage regulators

Postby inairam » Thu Oct 15, 2020 2:31 pm

John,

I posted about clover a few year agos. I have one of their units in a tractor some years now.

If you email the company electrodynamics http://edsltd.ddns.net/contactus.html or info@electrodynamicsolutions.com they will quote you the 6 volt version. I got the unit about 18 months ago from them
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Re: Electronic voltage regulators

Postby inairam » Thu Oct 15, 2020 2:52 pm

John *.?-!.* cub owner wrote:Inaram, the one you posted has been sold to Electrodynamic and they only offer the 12 volt version.

I found some old references from back in 2016 where a member had installed a solid state unit made by Clover Systems inside his original regulator housing. Unfortunately it appears that The Clover Systems that made that unit is no more. Clover Systems is now a computer information company, do not know if they changed, or if it is a completely different company.


That was me who posted about clover.

I spoke to the owner of clover. The had an electroncis company and he had an old jaguar 6 v postive ground. He got tired to replacing the regulator and just decided to build one and then decided to sell it.
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Re: Electronic voltage regulators

Postby Jim Becker » Thu Oct 15, 2020 10:06 pm

nwfan1 wrote:. . . There must also be a way to bench test mechanical regulators, but I haven't had much luck finding any info on that either.

Service Manual GSS-1052-C shows equipment and procedures. I have never tried to follow those steps. I imagine that a simple(?) variable voltage source should be all it takes to do simplified checks. Checking voltage for closing the cut-out contacts and for opening the VR contacts should tell most of the story.

I believe I've seen the 2 voltages listed as 6.4 and 6.9 for a regulator. For the cut-out systems I have seen something like 6.75 to 7.5 volts. Those numbers seem a little inconsistent, so need to check the published figures for whatever unit you want to test.

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Re: Electronic voltage regulators

Postby Stevetractor » Fri Oct 16, 2020 6:32 am

Thanks everyone for the replies. I have contacted the electrodynamics company and I’m waiting for a response. Hopefully it will be positive. Sure do love the two I have. Wished I’d of bought a few extras as Cubs keep following me home. :tractor:

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Re: Electronic voltage regulators

Postby Stevetractor » Fri Oct 16, 2020 7:00 pm

So I heard back from company in England. Great news. Not much more than a US made mechanical regulator.
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Re: Electronic voltage regulators

Postby John *.?-!.* cub owner » Fri Oct 16, 2020 8:35 pm

Before you order, make sure it is a Type A (adjusts field connection to ground) and not a type B, (adjusts voltage supplied to field to control charging rate). I believe many of the British vehicles used Type B

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