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Postby countershaft » Mon Jan 30, 2006 8:15 pm

do you use a "primer" as the first coat over bare metal or just two coat with the Farmall red ??
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Postby countershaft » Mon Jan 30, 2006 8:35 pm

WHAT TYPE PRIMER DO YOU RECOMMEND? Color make a difference ?
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Postby John *.?-!.* cub owner » Mon Jan 30, 2006 9:03 pm

Most people use primer, and I definetly reccomned it, however the old IH tractors, inclucign cubs, weren't primed.
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Postby Bill B » Mon Jan 30, 2006 9:15 pm

IH did not use primer, but just two coats of enamel. I use two coats of PPG DP74 red epoxy primer, then two coats of PPG concept urethane. It is a better job than new, but I dont mind that. It also cost very much, but I dont mind that also. Check out my tractor page on my web site to see a few that I painted.

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Postby LiL' Red » Mon Jan 30, 2006 9:35 pm

I would recommend a sandable primer, it will allow you to hide small imperfections, and bond the paint to the metal. Apply the first coat of primer then the little imperfections will start to show up, sand with 220. prime again, sand with 320, then paint. Just talking about sanding smooth metal surfaces, not castings.

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Wow Bill, that's some web site

Postby countershaft » Mon Jan 30, 2006 9:42 pm

It must be a great feeling to finish like that .
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Postby John S » Mon Jan 30, 2006 10:50 pm

I second everything that Lil Red said. Prep work it the key to a good paint job. I just got done with the tank and hood on the 1947 A and it looks great. I used a sandable primer that I bought from Pep Boys, its Dupli-Color brand filler primer. It did a great job of filling in any small sand marks, and has a nice fan spray. I did final light sand with 400, then tack cloth off the dust. Then I shot one light flash coat, five minutes later a nice heavy coat followed by a final coat 30 minutes later. I used IH 2150 in the rattle can with fantastic success. That IH paint is the best spray can paint I have ever used, nice fan spray and really goes on slick and blends into its self great. It’s not hot rod quality but I don’t think I will need to make any excuses for the way it looks.
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Postby Jeff Silvey » Mon Jan 30, 2006 11:03 pm

I would dido everything everyone has said about primer.
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Postby LiL' Red » Mon Jan 30, 2006 11:27 pm

Amen to the comments about IH 2150 in the rattle cans. If you don't have a good spray gun they are a very close second in finish quality. In fact they are sometimes better for small parts, not as much overspray.
Do not use the cheaper stuff from TSC, Farm&Fleet and such. IH 2150 is only about a buck a can higher, it will cover better, shine better, more consistent color, much easier to use because of the flat fan spray pattern, and it will last. NO I don't work for IH! I can paint much faster with one of my Devilbiss guns but in the end it's tough to tell which parts were painted with what.
Primer color makes no difference the only comment here would be that with light primers you have to be a little more carefull about overlapping your spray patterns.

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Postby countershaft » Mon Jan 30, 2006 11:39 pm

Great job fellows. Not being a profesional painter( spray gun ) and not having the paint shop facilities , all the "tips" help. I use the 2150 from Case and it does a nice job.
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Postby Buzzard Wing » Thu Feb 02, 2006 9:13 pm

I agree with all of the above, especially John S regarding the Duplicolor primer. I have used all kinds and this stuff is great.

Also concur on the the IH rattle can paint.

I would take the cup brush and get a bare metal spot most every night and prime right away. (Stove alcohol for a cleaner).

Since I didn't have a good way (compressor too small) to use a spray gun I ended up using IH rattle can for the yellow with very good results. ( anyone need a quart of federal yellow Delstar??) Had the white done by a pro, that worked out great because he could do it when he wanted and I got some big parts out of the garage while I worked on the rest.

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Postby Mike Schmudlach » Thu Feb 02, 2006 11:31 pm

Bill B.,

IH did not use 2 coats of paint. The tractor was only painted once.
Do you honestly think that IH would spend the money to run the tractor down the paint line twice? LOL
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