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[steel]

Hello everyone. I am now the proud new owner of a Cub. I got it from my dad, but I know nothing about it. Before I get into picking everyones brains, I have a funny story about how my Cub saved the day already before I even got it running.

Today when I got home, I walked around my Cub to check it out and admire it. While I was checking it out, I noticed that there was a bunch of water on the floor. I looked up and found that my roof was leaking pretty badly. I noticed a little water damage before on the ceiling, but I thought it was old. Had I not been checking out my tractor, I would not have known I had an active leak.

I then went up in the attic to figure out where the leak was and almost got myself stuckbetween trusses. My wife is at work tonight and the kids were already in bed. I would have had to camp out in the attic until my wife got home if I did get stuck. I do ot even think my super tractor could help me out of the attic.

OK, back on topic. I am having a little trouble figuring out the year of my Cub. There is a plate by the steering, but the only thing on it is a "J" stamped into it. Other than that, it is a clean plate. From reading the board, I have found that maybe the tractor can be identified by the raised serial numbers. There are also small plates by each of these numbers with some numbers of their own (second number listed).

The numbers are as follows:

ENGINE:
2 251341R7
3 7 0 (or "D")

HYDRAULICS
360719-R1
11 15 B

TRANSMISSION
351686-R2
L 2 X


If anyone can help, I would really appreciate it.

I also have a bit of confusion about the size. I was under the impression that there was one size Cub. I keep seeing references to different sizes. Could someone please clear this up for me?

The board is great and seems like a great source for any information I might need for my tractor. I have stumbled across the new guy speil a few times, so I am familiar with it. I will probably make my Christmas list be all Cub parts and manuals.

I usually dread working on cars, but the Cub so far has been alot of fun to work on. I tore the hubs off and took them apart looking for a bad seal. I think it was a waste of time because the trans was way too full and I think the oil was all from there. All of the seals looked good to me.

[spiveyman]

i'm kinda new to the site myself, and Cubs, but maybe you're referring to Cubs and Cub LoBoys?? If I've got this right, the LoBoys are about 3 inches give or take lower than the Cubs. Good little tractors for mowing (LoBoys i mean, but so are the regualer Cubs.) I dont know if that's what you mean, and i'm certainly no expert...Other guys will post in time and help you out

[Boss Hog]

Hi and welcome to a great place
I think maybe the trans # are1 2 X that wood make it a 1952
Check the metal tag on the right side of the lower radiator housing
and give us that # m,ay need magnafing glass J is for Rockford clutch
the cub was prety much the same from 1947 to 1975
I think the HP increased a bit then but still about the same tractor
They made a lo boy but it was just shorter and lower to the ground
David

[Bigdog]

Welcome aboard!

First of all, some of the numbers you listed were part numbers - they end with an R-suffix like R7 etc.
the casting number you listed 3 7 O or D would indicate the piece was cast on 3/7 of either 1958 or 1968 depending on whether it is an O or a D.
Does you cub have a rounded or squared off hood?

As far as 2 sizes of cubs - there are really just either standard cubs or Lo-boys. Other than height, they are nearly the same.

Look at your serial number plate again very closely - sometimes they are stamped very lightly. Try rubbing across it with a lead pencil to see if something shows up.

[Jim Becker]

The serial number should be stamped into the plate right in front of the "J". Try the pencil trick with a piece of thin paper over the plate. Sometimes they will trace onto the paper.

I think the "3 7 0 (or "D")" is most likely a D for March 7, 1958. You can also look on the engine block near the carburetor for the engine number. It will not be the same as the serial number, but is close enough to be a general indicator. Look here to see where the engine number is:
http://www.tmtractor.com/id/id_003.htm

There were several versions of Cub tractors, but all similar in overall size/power. Go to the Cub FAQ page http://www.antique-tractor.com/CubFAQ/cub_faq.html and scroll down near the bottom for a brief idea of what each version was.

There were also Cub Cadets, a full line of Lawn and Garden sized tractors.

[Ron Luebke]

welcome and congrats on the cub like these other guys i'd try the pencil trick

[Cecil]

Welcome to the greatest forum on the web. These folks are just unbelievable when it comes to solving problems. Don't be afraid to ask questions because that is how we learn. And by the way just show your Cub where the phone is and she will call for help next time.

[Mac from NS]

welcome aboard

[Kirk]

Hey Steel,

Real glad to have you. Rest assured, there is NO better place to be on the internet than here

The guys and gals on this site are the best you will find and seem DRIVEN to help their fellow Cub addicts out

I know Rudi will be along shortly of whom will give you some "priceless" info.

Don't be a stranger. Ask lots of questions (even if you think they may be dumb....like I do all the time). These guys are the real experts and can guide you along no matter what the situation.

They are, bar none, the best

[Rudi]

Steel:

Ok, so you are familiar with the spiel.. that be good. However, it don't let you off the hook.. New Guy/Gal = Spiel.. Only fair.. besides if I changed now, people might think I am gettin weird..

Plus, it is a good source for the info that you WILL need. Sorry about the leak, I do know the story on that one.... been dealing with it in my shop for a couple years now.. still have yet to locate the reason for the leak.. so you can't fix what you can't find.. unless of course you just put on a new roof.

Congrats , and I do hope you have fun with it. Getting your Dad's tractor makes it even sweeter and has a more personal history to it... Enjoy tinkering with it..

First, to the greatest forum on the internet, and to the Cub Family. You will find that all the folks on this forum are kind, helpful and just full of Cub info and knowledge. They also happen to be the finest folks I have ever met

Ok, so here is the spiel :

I would suggest that you read this thread: New Members and Visitors, Please READ Prior to Posting. There are many great links to informative pages such as the ATIS FAQ's 1 and ATIS FAQ's 2, The Best of H.L. Chauvin who has written very interesting articles on troubleshooting common problems with your Cub.

Also, you might want to visit the Cub Manual Server as there is tons of info on servicing, maintaining and re-building your Cub. In addition to this basic information, there are also a number of other useful tools available on the server. There is the Specialty Services page which has contact info for neat stuff like getting your seats recovered, buying quality Decals, Serial Number tags and a host of other neat items. Also there are the Parts Pages - both Used Parts Suppliers and New Parts Suppliers pages with links to quality dealers. I am always looking for YOUR favourite dealers for New and Used Parts to include here. These pages are intended to complement our Official FarmallCub.com Website Sponsors:

JP Tractor Salvage
Ralph's Cubs
TM Tractor Parts

I would also recommend that you visit Binder Books and purchase the three most important manuals you can own for Maintenance, Repair and Rebuilding your Cub. These are the Owner's Manual, the GSS-1411 Service Manual and the TC-37F Parts Manual. Although they are available on the Cub Manual Server, it is better is you also have your own paper copy. Binder Books is the only Authorized IH Publication Reprint House and they have the best quality manuals available. Most other's are not of the same quality. Just a personal thought here, the I&T Shop Manuals, although helpful in some areas, really are not sufficient for the job. If you wish though, they are good additional reference works.

IF you really want to get the skinny on all things Cub, might I suggest you get a copy of Ken Updike's Farmall Cub and Cub Cadet's . While you are at it Original Farmall Cub and Cub Cadet is Ken's latest addition to the series. Along with Guy Fay's Letter Series Originality Guide, these are three must have's in anyone's collection.

In addition to the above information, don't forget to check out the various articles that are available to help with your Repair, Restore, Rebuild or just your Maintenance Projects. There are a number of sub pages such as Electrolysis or Rust Zapper's, Maintenance Tips, Jigs and Techniques, Implement and Part Sketches and of course the Paint, Decals & Other Finish Questions which has the Paint Chart and the Paint Committee Decisions links.

Oh, and while the program still lasts.. you might want to check the Announcement: Navistar Free Gas Cap Offer - On-Line Form thread at the top of the Cub Forum and send away for the new style safety cap before that program runs out as well.

I truly hope that you enjoy your Cub and that you will be a frequent contributor to the forum. Again, to the Cub Family

[Clem]

welcome steel! Glad to hear you are putting that cub to work already

[Psycho]

Steel,

Welcome aboard
Bob

[steel]

Welcome to the greatest forum on the web. These folks are just unbelievable when it comes to solving problems. Don't be afraid to ask questions because that is how we learn. And by the way just show your Cub where the phone is and she will call for help next time.

Thanks for the advice, but I think the more effective solution would be to remember that I no longer weigh 140 pounds. I'm a little rounder these days and I do not fit into tight places so well. Next time I am sending the kids crawling. They like poking around in the attic and they each weigh less than 50 pounds.

Thanks to everyone else for the welcome. I am going to be converting the system over to 12 volt. Most of you guys make it sound easy, but I am assuming that is because you could do it in your sleep. I am sure I will run across a few snags on the way and will need some advice.

[Jim Becker]

Welcome to the greatest forum on the web. These folks are just unbelievable when it comes to solving problems. Don't be afraid to ask questions because that is how we learn. And by the way just show your Cub where the phone is and she will call for help next time.

Thanks for the advice, but I think the more effective solution would be to remember that I no longer weigh 140 pounds. I'm a little rounder these days and I do not fit into tight places so well. Next time I am sending the kids crawling. They like poking around in the attic and they each weigh less than 50 pounds.

I have adopted the practice of sticking a cell phone in my pocket when I go crawling in such places. I've got one of the blasted things, might as will have it where it could do me some good.

[TractorChick]

steel... go tractordata.com
they have some really good information on cubs and everything
maybe that would help you
good luck!!