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wood splitter for a cub

Postby Dogman » Mon Mar 01, 2004 2:31 pm

I know it would be easier to buy one. but I am a poor boy trying to save a buck so I can start working on my two mutts.
so have any of you backwoods or city slickers engineers come up with away to use a cub to split wood :?: Thanks
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Postby George Willer » Mon Mar 01, 2004 4:01 pm

Dogman,

It would have to have the gear case turned around to work on a Cub, but this one would work otherwise. I run the 9N at an idle and power is never an issue. The screw type splitters strike fear in the hearts of little kids and old ladies, but they are inherently safe... and work well.

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Postby Oscar Meier » Mon Mar 01, 2004 5:03 pm

I worked on a hydraulic wood splitter design for a cub last fall. It's a workable project; however, the cost for parts gets the total project cost up to the value for a good used splitter. ($800 to $1000) I am still considering building one this summer. Rudi mentioned Princess Auto supply as a possible parts supplier and their catalog prices are a little better.

One way to offset the cost would maybe try to get a used splitter that has a bad engine and scavenge parts to adapt to the cub.

On another note, I have also now gathered the all the pieces to do a cub mounted generator. I was able to get a generator head off E-bay and I am working on a vertical frame and drive to mount off the rear mower support bar. This was inspired from 69-lowboy's horzontal design.

I just got a digital camera and should, if I learn how to work it, be able to post some pictures too.

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Postby Dogman » Mon Mar 01, 2004 5:09 pm

Thanks George
If anyone had one i knew it would be you. I remember those screw splitter that bolted on a car in mother earth magazine back in the 70's were did you find your?
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Postby WKPoor » Mon Mar 01, 2004 5:55 pm

The screw splitters are still made and sold. A guy out in Washington state is selling them under the old Stickler name. I built a custom splitter last yr starting with a store bought 3pt unit the pivots upright. Buy the time I purchased Prince 21gpm 540 pump and fabricated 21gal reservoir plus famework and other goodies the unit is way to big for the Cub to even lift without a log on it nor could it handle the pump. I'll post pics when I get home. Moral of the story is might as well buy one ready to go because for the money I got tied up in the unit-well we won't go there. Only thing I can say is this unit will have super fast cycle times and loads of power.
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Postby Rudi » Mon Mar 01, 2004 7:30 pm

George:

Now, that is a project that is just beggin to be re-configured for a Cub and posted on the server :D :!: :D :wink: Whaddaytink :?:
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Postby George Willer » Mon Mar 01, 2004 7:37 pm

Dogman wrote:Thanks George
If anyone had one i knew it would be you. I remember those screw splitter that bolted on a car in mother earth magazine back in the 70's were did you find your?


I got lucky at a consignment sale. I bought the splitter, gear case, and PTO shaft for $15. It looked like someone intended to use it like a post hole digger??? The 3 pt carrier I bought on sale but never used. I think it was worth it. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby WKPoor » Mon Mar 01, 2004 8:26 pm

George- How does that Stickler do in nasty knoty pieces or in crotches and such. The guy who still sells them sent me a video. I called him and said your video only shows someone splitting perfect knot free pieces 6-12inch. I want to know how it works on real firewood not the stuff you see in magazines. He said it would work but I wasn't sold until I see one work for myself.
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Postby rondellh » Mon Mar 01, 2004 8:53 pm

I've heard that the screw type splitters aren't terrinly efective on tough wood. But I haven't used one personally.

I have toyed with the idea of a hydraulic splitter. I have several cylinders, 2 stage pumps and valves. I figured on muonting the H-beam to the draw bar or mounting bosses and using the rock shaft to lift it for transport. Still havent decided on whether to mount it horizontal or vertical. Both styles have their good and bad points.
All I need is a larger pulley (like from a woods mower) to drive it.
I think I remember seeing a hub that will fit the cub's unique sline but can't remember for sure. Has anyone seen them before or know where to get one?

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Postby George Willer » Mon Mar 01, 2004 8:59 pm

WKPoor wrote:George- How does that Stickler do in nasty knoty pieces or in crotches and such. The guy who still sells them sent me a video. I called him and said your video only shows someone splitting perfect knot free pieces 6-12inch. I want to know how it works on real firewood not the stuff you see in magazines. He said it would work but I wasn't sold until I see one work for myself.


WK,

Of course, everything has its' limits, and it does take some learning. I've never used a wedge type splitter, but I would guess the limits are similar. I had to quickly learn to split firewood sized pieces off the big chunk, rather than split everything down the center. That way the knots and crotches aren't a problem.

If we were to split only straight grained pieces we could just do it with a maul. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby WKPoor » Mon Mar 01, 2004 10:14 pm

GW-The hydraulic wedge splitter is very effective in almost any wood. We routinely split 24" or greater from the vertical position admittantly working the edges off first. However the one I used this past winter almost never stalled in the nastiest ugly knotty pieces one could imagine. I invision the screw type the same if the power driving it is ample.
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Postby Oscar Meier » Tue Mar 02, 2004 9:41 am

Rondella,

That is pretty well the design I was working on last fall. Simular to the 3-point hitch designs you can get from Northern or TSC.

I think the horzontal orentation would work the best. Raising the unit with the rockshaft and a single support leg off the end of the I-beam seemed to be the best.

The 8" mower pully on the PTO drive with a 3" drive pully on the pump will give you about 3600 RPM pump speed with an engine speed of 1350 RPM. Also, a Type B belt is needed to fit pullys and transmit 10 hp load.

I want to build a splitter this summer - time is always an issue - summer is always busy.

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