Another first edited to add radiator overflow tube photos

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Another first edited to add radiator overflow tube photos

Postby Gary Boutwell » Wed Jan 14, 2009 6:31 pm

Found this on the backside of the 56 Hi Crop.
An original radiator tag. Another first for me.
All the radiator I have seen had an aftermarket tag on them.

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As close as my old eye can make out, it indicates:

IH MELROSE PARK WKS
352903R91 365


Thought it was interesting enough to post.

EDITED 1/15/09. Adding photos of old overflow tube and new one
Several sent PM's wanting info about the overflow tube.
The one that came off was original.
It is 5/16 steel tube.

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Decided I would fab a replacement for it as it has a hole in it.

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All needed was a length of 5/16 brake line, a 5/16 tubing bender, and a tube cutter.

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The new one is close enough. Doubt anyone will ever see it, but you never know when the 'correct police" will show up.
I kept the original one, if you need one, show up at the Louisiana Cub Fest March 6 & 7.
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Re: Another first for the 56 Hi Crop

Postby Ron Luebke » Wed Jan 14, 2009 6:36 pm

i thought that was cool on my rads too. you can polish the tops of the radiators to a nice shinny brass finish, i did the loboy but with the hood on only i know it, hey it was cub work and had fun doing it.
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Re: Another first for the 56 Hi Crop

Postby Joey » Wed Jan 14, 2009 8:52 pm

Gary,

Is it a tag that is attached to the radiator or is it stamped?
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Re: Another first for the 56 Hi Crop

Postby Harold R » Wed Jan 14, 2009 10:33 pm

I have a couple of cubs and both my Super C's have that tag. One of my cubs that has the tag also has the original overflow tube. :{_}:
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Re: Another first for the 56 Hi Crop

Postby Jerry M » Thu Jan 15, 2009 8:32 am

Yup, my 51 has that tag too. it's soldered on.

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Re: Another first for the 56 Hi Crop

Postby Gary Boutwell » Thu Jan 15, 2009 8:44 am

The tag is soldered on.
This radiator also had the original overflow.

It was unattached and complete stopped up.

I plan on making several copies for the future.
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Re: Another first for the 56 Hi Crop

Postby Alan Riley » Thu Jan 15, 2009 11:26 am

Gary Boutwell wrote:The tag is soldered on.
This radiator also had the original overflow.


Gary, is that overflow line steel or copper?
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Re: Another first for the 56 Hi Crop

Postby Gary Boutwell » Thu Jan 15, 2009 12:13 pm

Alan Riley wrote:
Gary Boutwell wrote:The tag is soldered on.
This radiator also had the original overflow.


Gary, is that overflow line steel or copper?


Alan,

It is steel.
I will take a photo when it warms up this morning.
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Re: Another first edited to add radiator overflow tube photos

Postby Bill V in Md » Thu Jan 15, 2009 4:42 pm

Gary,

Good job on the new overflow tube. I have to do the same job on my 48 Cub. Currently it has a short tube that was used with a rubber hose. I have read other posts where the tube was removed by heating the solder. I am planning to give it a try this weekend. A cold wet rag around the filler neck and very cold ambient temperatures will hopefully be enough to prevent me melting the solder holding the filler neck.
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Re: Another first edited to add radiator overflow tube photos

Postby Gary Boutwell » Thu Jan 15, 2009 5:18 pm

Bill V in Md wrote:Gary,

Good job on the new overflow tube. I have to do the same job on my 48 Cub. Currently it has a short tube that was used with a rubber hose. I have read other posts where the tube was removed by heating the solder. I am planning to give it a try this weekend. A cold wet rag around the filler neck and very cold ambient temperatures will hopefully be enough to prevent me melting the solder holding the filler neck.


Bill, that is exactly the way a professional shop would do.

Good luck with the fix.
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Re: Another first edited to add radiator overflow tube photos

Postby Bus Driver » Thu Jan 15, 2009 6:04 pm

For those who might contemplate making such a tube from copper, I suspect that the copper tube would quickly fail due to vibration.
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Re: Another first edited to add radiator overflow tube photos

Postby Harold R » Thu Jan 15, 2009 6:20 pm

Gary, there should be a clip that goes under one of the radiator bolts that secures the bottom of the tube to the bolster....mine had that too..... :mrgreen:

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Re: Another first edited to add radiator overflow tube photos

Postby Gary Dotson » Fri Jan 16, 2009 8:23 am

I was pleasantly surprised to find, when tearing down my 48 for the diesel conversion, that it still had a, near perfect, radiator with tag, overflow tube, and lower clip in place. Even the fins of the radiator were in nice shape. A quick clean-up & paint, looks great. Somehow, the lower clip disappeared during the project, a mystery still unsolved, but it only took a couple minutes to make a new one. If your radiator still has the stock overflow tube, that lower clip is very important to it's survival.
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Re: Another first edited to add radiator overflow tube photos

Postby Gary Boutwell » Fri Jan 16, 2009 8:36 am

Gary Dotson wrote:I was pleasantly surprised to find, when tearing down my 48 for the diesel conversion, that it still had a, near perfect, radiator with tag, overflow tube, and lower clip in place. Even the fins of the radiator were in nice shape. A quick clean-up & paint, looks great. Somehow, the lower clip disappeared during the project, a mystery still unsolved, but it only took a couple minutes to make a new one. If your radiator still has the stock overflow tube, that lower clip is very important to it's survival.


Absolutely!!! That little clip needs to be installed to take the vibration out of the lower section.
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Re: Another first edited to add radiator overflow tube photos

Postby George Willer » Fri Jan 16, 2009 10:43 am

Another thought... The tube requires exactly the same tube as a proper fuel line... 5/16" by 20". Why not kill two birds with one stone and start with a 40" brake line? That way the first sharp bend can be made more easily before the line is cut.
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