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Cub cutoff saw

Postby Kodiak » Tue Oct 05, 2004 9:09 pm

Noticed a nice cutoff saw in the posted Cubarama pictures. It was titled "Bigdog helps cut some wood" anyone have some info on that setup or pictures of cutoff saws being run with cubs? I have my grandfathers blades and 2 stand alone saws. Hope to get them restored this winter.

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Postby Bigdog » Wed Oct 06, 2004 7:24 am

Kodiak, I have some pictures somewhere of the saw rig. Will try to find them. I let one of these get away from me last year. It was at a very good price too.
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Postby John *.?-!.* cub owner » Wed Oct 06, 2004 9:02 am

I don't remember who it was, but there was one for sale at Cubarama.
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Postby Bigdog » Wed Oct 06, 2004 9:29 am

Here is a link to a picture of Jim Turner's saw I took at the first cubarama. Just click on the link, then click on view and if you want some details, click on view original size.

http://www.hpphoto.com/servlet/com.hp.HPGuestLogin?username=dbigdog&password=74218733
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Postby Rudi » Wed Oct 06, 2004 11:55 am

BD:

Here are a couple of questions. They probably could be answered ifn we actually had an owners manual and parts manual for the saw, but seeing as we don't, we will have to rely on anecdotal information.

1. When the table is fully retracted toward the pto adapter, will the wood on the table actually be inside the rear tires or will the wood be outside of the tires. This would be an important consideration ifn you were cutting up 4 foot lengths for firewood.

2. What is the diameter of the saw blade?

3. How many teeth per inch?

4. What is the actual rpm of the blade? 1800? or more? or less?

5. How long is the chain?

6. How efficient is it? In otherwords, would it be a useful implement to use if you had to cut say 10 cords of firewood over the summer?


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Postby Bigdog » Wed Oct 06, 2004 12:15 pm

Rudi, the man to ask would be Bill Troutman (Labadie Bill) who owns the saw we used this year. I know that when the table is all the way in, the wood is not past the tires. And I don't know if there is any gear reduction through the 90 or not. Bill is a forum member so you might want to shoot him a pm to see what you can learn.
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Postby Bruce Sanford » Wed Oct 06, 2004 2:15 pm

I think that is a piece of equipment, you would want to show a lot of respect for.That thing looks mean. :wink: :)
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Postby Bigdog » Wed Oct 06, 2004 4:00 pm

Amen to the respect! When that thing was built, OSHA wasn't even dreamed of. It will, however, cut a lot of wood if the blade is sharp.
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Postby jim turner » Wed Oct 06, 2004 6:57 pm

Rudi the blade is a 30" blade don't know how many teeth per inch but it is a standard buzz saw the chain is just long enough to let the bed come back past the blade it will saw a lot of wood in a short time much faster than a chain saw. no it clears the tires I usually cut 6ft long logs unless I have help then cut as long as we can lift
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Postby Bigdog » Wed Oct 06, 2004 7:09 pm

Thanks for the info Jim. We missed you at Cubarama this year!
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Postby Rudi » Wed Oct 06, 2004 8:00 pm

BD:

K, will send a pm to Labadie Bill. I am hoping he may be able to clear these questions up.

Bruce:

It definitely needs some respect as do all machinery. I do not believe however that it would be any more dangerous than the saw table I currently use. The only difference basically is in the motive power. I use a Tecumseh Snow King 8 HP with 2 belts running to a VERY large flywheel. When that thing is turning at full power, it is some scary and deserves a TON of RESPECT. Take your arm off faster than you can say BOO!
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Postby Rudi » Wed Oct 06, 2004 8:03 pm

Jim:

Thanks for the info. I do appreciate. Now, if I can find one, then I will have just about everything for my Cub that I can find a use for!

Sure would beat dragging my current saw table around :!: It weight a lot!
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Postby Kodiak » Wed Oct 06, 2004 8:30 pm

Thanks for all the info. and links. I agree that these things demand a lots of respect and caution when using. They can ruin your day for the rest of your life. :cry:
I hope to be able to make the Cubfest this comming June and possibly the Cubarama next fall and look up one of the setups like Bigdog was helping with.

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Postby LabadieBill » Wed Oct 06, 2004 9:37 pm

Thanks for the interest in the buzz saw we used at Cub-Arama this year. Jim Turner usually does a demonstration, but couldn't make it this year, so we used my saw. The saw came with the first Cub I bought 20 years ago. According to Jim Becker, the saw is called a Brookfield Saw and was made by the Mott Company at a factory in Brookfield, IL. Unfortunately, I don't have an owners manual - would like to find one though. At one time, I had three of these saws, but have sold two of them. There was one for sale at Cub-Arama this year for $350, but I think someone bought it. The drive gear mechanism on it is actually a belt pully with an extension on it. We ran it at about half throttle and it cut pretty good. I have more pictures if anyone is interested.
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Postby Rudi » Wed Oct 06, 2004 9:45 pm

Bill:

I certainly would be interested in seeing them and if it is okay with you I would like to upload them to the server for the Implement Gallery. Captions or notations with the pics would be wonderful. Please send them to my email address if you would.

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