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Re: Oil Pan Torque

Postby Slim140 » Fri Mar 23, 2018 9:45 am

farmergiffIV wrote:
ntrenn wrote:If you have the ability to use a torque wrench...most pans, valve covers, and the like will run 90-100 INCH lbs. I recommend a torque wrench if at all possible....amazing what correct, even torque does for leak avoidance....


I’ve never heard of inch pounds but 90-100 lbs torque sounds like a lot for bolts going into soft metal.

90-100 ft lbs of torque is a lot for small bolts, you'd break them off. That's why 90-100 inch lbs was mentioned (7.5-8.33 ft lbs.), that's not much.
Inch pounds is 1/12th of a foot pound.
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Re: Oil Pan Torque

Postby Bob McCarty » Fri Mar 23, 2018 10:15 am

An inch pound is 1/12 of a foot pound, so 90-100 inch lbs would be 7.5- 8.3 ft lbs.
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Re: Oil Pan Torque

Postby Don McCombs » Fri Mar 23, 2018 10:33 am

90-100 inch pounds = 7.5-8.3 foot pounds. Just divide by 12.

Edit... How did I miss Shane & Bob's posts?
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Re: Oil Pan Torque

Postby DRaymond » Fri Mar 23, 2018 1:22 pm

Inch Pounds. Example in the book I have a lubed 5/16-18 grade 2 bolt torque is 9 foot lbs or 108 in lbs. I use my inch lb torque wrench quite a bit when I need even torque on small fasteners or non-ferrous fasteners.
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Re: Oil Pan Torque

Postby areger23 » Fri Mar 23, 2018 6:36 pm

farmergiffIV wrote:
ntrenn wrote:If you have the ability to use a torque wrench...most pans, valve covers, and the like will run 90-100 INCH lbs. I recommend a torque wrench if at all possible....amazing what correct, even torque does for leak avoidance....


I’ve never heard of inch pounds but 90-100 lbs torque sounds like a lot for bolts going into soft metal.



so 7.5-8.333333 ft lbs. inch pounds is used a lot in the mechanic field especially on the newer machines that they give a torque for everything

Edit...... Is there something wrong with the forum i didnt see anyone else's post about inch pounds until after i posted

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Re: Oil Pan Torque

Postby Bob McCarty » Fri Mar 23, 2018 8:43 pm

Don McCombs wrote:Edit... How did I miss Shane & Bob's posts?


And how did I miss Shane's? Must have started typing and gotten distracted....
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Re: Oil Pan Torque

Postby Paul Van Benschoten » Sat Mar 24, 2018 5:13 am

Don McCombs wrote:Edit... How did I miss Shane & Bob's posts?


Is it possible you were viewing page 1 of this thread while Shane's post had started page 2?

or was it a rhetorical question?
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Re: Oil Pan Torque

Postby Don McCombs » Sat Mar 24, 2018 7:15 am

It was rhetorical. :D
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Re: Oil Pan Torque

Postby ntrenn » Sat Mar 24, 2018 4:39 pm

So....the reason i threw inch pounds out there as almost every valve cover, transmission pan and oil pan today has gravitated to 96-108 inch lbs. Old dodge tranny pans run 120-132. When you set your old ft lb torque wrench at 9, you may get 6, you may get 12. The inch lb wrench is more accurate and gives better results. You will NEVER bend the pan at the bolts and get the resulting leak. Harbor freight (i know...) runs them on sale for $12 all the time....money well spent.

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Re: Oil Pan Torque

Postby DRaymond » Mon Mar 26, 2018 1:48 pm

A few boring and I hope unpretentious notes from a fellow novice tractor guy.

1. You have taken, what I believe is the most valuable step, found Farmall.com and joined this forum. The luckiest thing that happened to me. THANKS TO ALL YOU CONTRIBUTORS!!!

2. As to your question regarding torque values for fasteners here are a couple of references I found and use:
a. GSS 1411 Service Manual (page VI) lists standard torque data for nuts & bolts as well as a bolt type ID Chart.
b. Back cover of the IH8 Shop Manual.
c. A "big mac" comprehensive reference source I use is the Fastenal Big Blue Volume 11 book (guaranteed to give you a hernia just picking it up but it has a huge amount of information).
d. You can Google the info as well.

As a P.S. and to piggy back on "ntrenn". Forum folks, and thankfully I know I will be corrected if wrong, torque wrenches are less accurate as you get to the extreme ends of their torque ranges. When possible I try to use a torque wrench (ft/lb or in/lb) where the bolt torque value I need falls reasonably within the mid range of the torque limit of the wrench.

3. The first thing I did after getting my first Cub, and to help gain some knowledge on the workings of the tractor (I knew nothing of tractors), I built a library of every service, operator and shop manual I could find on the Cub and its subsystems and attachments I planned to use AND READ THEM. I then made up my own Excel spreadsheet listing all service items, frequency of performance and related consumables.

4. Finally before I put a wrench to my Cub I believed it would be best to assume that the machine had received little or no past service and maintenance work "by the book". So when I started work on my every nut, bolt,and screw 48 FCUB restoration/overhaul project this approach had me really dig into the machine ( I had castings and parts all over my shop photographed, organized and labeled) the process of which gave me a lot of insight into its workings and structural limitations. Then to aid in tracking operational time I installed an hour meter and to make the oil pressure easier to monitor while operating the tractor mounted the oil pressure gauge on the dash.

Sorry for being so windy. Days are getting longer and warmer so I have to get at and finish my touch control and grader blade rebuild sub projects.
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Re: Oil Pan Torque

Postby staninlowerAL » Mon Mar 26, 2018 2:18 pm

:Dito: Can't fault DRaymond's approach. Doesn't leave much of anything out. JMHO :hattip:
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Re: Oil Pan Torque

Postby ntrenn » Mon Mar 26, 2018 5:52 pm

Draymond, you win the prize for completeness and thoroughness. Even us old salts that have 50 years with these machines can learn from you...

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Re: Oil Pan Torque

Postby Clemsonfor » Sun Jan 03, 2021 4:51 pm

farmergiffIV wrote:
ntrenn wrote:If you have the ability to use a torque wrench...most pans, valve covers, and the like will run 90-100 INCH lbs. I recommend a torque wrench if at all possible....amazing what correct, even torque does for leak avoidance....


I’ve never heard of inch pounds but 90-100 lbs torque sounds like a lot for bolts going into soft metal.

I know this is an older thread but I was looking for torque specs for pan gasket. 96 inch pounds equals to 8 ft pounds. Which is less than a previous poster had said to use.

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Re: Oil Pan Torque

Postby ntrenn » Sun Jan 03, 2021 8:43 pm

The IH chart for standard torques for 5/16 bolt charts at 17-18 ft-lb. My experience says that’s too high for a cork gasket. Dodge transmission pans with the same bolts call for 10-11 ft-lb(120-130 in-lb). 96 in-lb will put you in a good place. Gm uses 96 on most of their pan bolts...

Even the cheapo $10 harbor freight torque wrenches do fine. Built a lot of transmissions with one...


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