6 volt sealed beam lights

Wed Nov 17, 2004 1:53 pm

Have any of you found sealed beam head light bulbs from some where other than OEM tractor parts? I just have a hard time spending $33 for one light when all three of mine are burned out. I am tempted to replace the sealed beam ones with the old bullet style ones that take the 1133 bulbs. I like them better anyway and if a light burns out it cost me $2.50 instead of another $33 that is just a lot of money for lights when they could last 5 minutes or 50 years. you just don't know how long they will last. any ideas out there?
Chad
has anyone got any of the sealed beam bulbs from valubuilt?

6 volt sealed beam bulbs

Wed Nov 17, 2004 3:23 pm

I believe I bought some of those a few years back. Seems like they were about $15 each. I think the were 30 watt sealed beam. Is that what you're talking about? If you can't find any, let me know and I'll see if I have any extras.

Wed Nov 17, 2004 5:04 pm

I use the Philips #4511. Get them from http://www.moyerelectronics.com

Wed Nov 17, 2004 6:09 pm

Chad
If the correct police ain't looking :twisted:

The battery back up lights on exit signs are 6-v and they are the right size to fit in the cub headlight shell .
I have used them on one that had the seal beam in the pancake housing.
you use the reflector bulb(which is replacable) and lense wire it inside the housing just set it in your gasket and tighten the screw on the band.
Used ones are pretty easy to come by check with an electrican if you know anyone or any buisness that is doing a major remodeling cause they usually just go in the dumpster any way 8)

Wed Nov 17, 2004 8:45 pm

check with NAPA store. Just purchased 2. If you are looking for the rear had to go to Farmall PAtrs place # 371458 R92.

12V sealed beams

Wed Nov 17, 2004 8:53 pm

Is there a good place for 12V sealed beams. How do you use that moyer electronics site and if I went to Napa, what number would I ask for.
Thanks!!
Ramon

Wed Nov 17, 2004 9:01 pm

Ramon

The NAPA # is a 4511.

Wed Nov 17, 2004 9:15 pm

The flat style with a single lug in the center are basicly impossible to find except from OEM. I cut an old one open a couple years ago and put a bulb in. (They actually have a bulb inside). I soldered an 1133 into the reflector and also soldered a small brass nut on the tip of the bulb to screw the wire on. Since I didn't have a place to use it just then, it went on a shelf where it still sits. (This was before the OEM repro was available). I just wanted to see if I could do it and have it work.

The 4511 and similar bulbs described in this thread are the PAR36, 2 lug lamps used in the later ('58 and up) round style Cub lights. I have never tried to put one of these into the flat style housing, but others (including Ralph above) have claimed success.

PAR36 bulbs are very common, in a variety of voltages and wattages. I just went to the Grainger web site and did a key word search using the 2 words "lamp" and "PAR36". Got 110 hits. Only a small number were 6 volts, but it shows how common that shape is.

Wed Nov 17, 2004 9:15 pm

Ramon. The industry standard is a #4511. To use the Moyer, at the home page, click on "Wagner" lighting on the left hand side. It will list all the standards. Shipping is kind of expensive, but it's not too far for me to go there IF I'm in that area. Otherwise, go to Walmart or a car parts store and see if they have a #4511. Last time I bought, I got Philips.......

Wed Nov 17, 2004 9:35 pm

Here is a pic of the light on Rusty the 53

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4511 6 V or 12V

Thu Nov 18, 2004 6:39 am

Sorry guys, just want to be sure, so 4511 is 6V, 12V or can be both? Just want to make sure. My Cub is 12V so that is what I would need. I might go with Napa to avoid shipping. So these type bulbs will fit in the standard Cub light fixture? Why does OEM tractors sell them for so much?
Thanks again for all the help!
Ramon

Thu Nov 18, 2004 8:02 am

#4511 is 6 volt.

Try this site for info:
http://www.brite-lite.com/Products/Sealbm2.html

Hope this helps...........

Thu Nov 18, 2004 9:52 am

Ron
you are saying you got the 2 screw post ones to work in the pan cake style light housing?
Chad

Thu Nov 18, 2004 1:12 pm

Chad. Don't know if these are the style you are talking about, but I put the 4511's on my '55....... (Just went out back to take a few pics)

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I just had to add a ground wire (+) to make them work! They fit perfectly. Hope this helps...

12V Part #

Thu Nov 18, 2004 2:52 pm

So does anyone have the 12V sealed beam part number. That Brite-lite website sounds pretty good.
Thanks
Ramon