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wiring diagram

Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 6:08 pm
by billy clay
anyone have a diagram for the newer key start tractors there is a starter solinod under the floor pan and a wire is not hooked up , when you turn the key the solinod clicks but nothing happens

Re: wiring diagram

Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 6:22 pm
by Bigdog
Billy - is the wire that is not hooked up a heavy cable? If you take a fairly heavy piece of wire and jumper across the two large terminals on the solenoid the starter should operate. (Make sure you are in neutral)
It is quite possible that the solenoid contacts are burned - it is a common failure. Since the solenoid clicks it sounds like the control part is working. If you do the test above and the starter turns the engine over replace the solenoid you should have one lighter gauge wire to the control terminal (small terminal) and the battery cable connected to one heavy terminal and the cable to the starter motor on the other heavy terminal.

Re: wiring diagram

Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 6:24 pm
by Rudi
billy:

I see BD beat me to it as I looked up the latest edition of the TC-37F Parts Catalog that I have on the server -- the TC-37F Revision 6 (08-79) - Group 8 - Electrical. Hope this helps.

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the parts listing is here on Page 39

Re: wiring diagram

Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 6:37 pm
by billy clay
thanks for the info, it is a small gauge wire and looks like the neutral switch has been bypassed with get better look in the daylight tomorrow

Re: wiring diagram

Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 7:17 pm
by Pathfinder
Any one have a diagram for '49 cub with a 12v alternator. Zena's coming back this week from a complete engine overhaul and would like to neaten up the wiring on her.

Re: wiring diagram

Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 7:38 pm
by Don McCombs
Pathfinder, this thread may be helpful...

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=57524&p=473972#p473972

Re: wiring diagram

Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 7:43 pm
by Rudi
Billy:

Actually whilst looking on the server I found a copy of Bob Melville's schematics. This is for the later key type with solenoid.

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Pathfinder:

This is a copy of Bob Melville's Schematic for a 12 Volt GM 10SI Conversion For on a Super M - it would be similar.

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The wiring for your specific alternator may be different if it is not a 10SI

Re: wiring diagram

Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 8:13 pm
by Bigdog
billy clay wrote:thanks for the info, it is a small gauge wire and looks like the neutral switch has been bypassed with get better look in the daylight tomorrow

Billy - bypassing the neutral switch is a common practice. Not a good one but a common one nonetheless.

Re: wiring diagram

Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 8:50 pm
by billy clay
solinoid is fine starter is bad pulled it apart and everything inside is rusted badly , took starter off my 1970 and put it on now she cranks over now need to track down no spark issue in morning

Re: wiring diagram

Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 8:53 pm
by Bigdog
Suggest you start with cleaning the points. Probably glazed over or pitted.