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Dual rear wheels

Postby k9sicem » Mon Oct 31, 2011 1:22 pm

I would like to put dual rear tires on the Cub I use to plow snow. I have seen original adapters go for BIG money. Is there anywhere I can get a set of after market adapters reasonable?

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Re: Dual rear wheels

Postby Bob McCarty » Mon Oct 31, 2011 1:25 pm

Scott, In my opinion, dual wheels are not the best set up for snow. You want to maximize the weight per square inch of footprint that the tire has on the snow. It would be better to have a good set of chains and double up on weights if you have them.

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Re: Dual rear wheels

Postby Bigdog » Mon Oct 31, 2011 1:31 pm

I agree with Bob. In addition that will put your footprint way outside what the blade covers and you will have wheels in unplowed snow all the time.
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Re: Dual rear wheels

Postby Barnyard » Mon Oct 31, 2011 1:52 pm

As the owner of a dual wheeled Cub I have to fully agree with Bob and Darrell. It really adds nothing to a Cub as far as traction is concerned. Mine is set up like that purely as a novelty. It also provides a convenient place to store two spare tires. :lol:

Stick with single tires and weights for pushing snow and add chains if you're sure they won't tear up your asphalt or concrete driveway.
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Re: Dual rear wheels

Postby Cub-Bud » Mon Oct 31, 2011 1:52 pm

To add: adapters are not needed to dual the rear on a FCUB.

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Re: Dual rear wheels

Postby Gator809 » Mon Oct 31, 2011 1:55 pm

All you have to do is dish 1 tire all the way inside, and dish the outter all the way out.

I find that duals tend to make the tractor have to scrub the outside tires. Making turning a lot harder.

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Re: Dual rear wheels

Postby BigBill » Mon Oct 31, 2011 4:07 pm

Caution; The snowplow should be a tad wider than the tractor width even when its angled.

The dual rear wheels do require adapters because i feel the one set of lugnuts isn't tight enough to hold both rim centers firmly. If we run/use it alot i feel the lug holes will wallow out in the rim centers. I used the 5 lug on the 4.5" bolt circle adapters and we should use the tapered washers on the inboard rim center so the rim center is clamped firmly like on the tapered lugs have. There are pics of my duallies here and on http://www.yesterdaystractors.com in the photo section too. I got them from http://www.ezaccessory.com I like using the wheel spacers because i can run tire chains on one wheel or both using three side chains with the cross links. One set of chains will fit both tires if you make it right.
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Re: Dual rear wheels

Postby Rudi » Mon Oct 31, 2011 5:03 pm

Scott:

As BD and Bob said.... do not use duallies to plow snow. I kinda entertained that idea for a while but quickly became less enamoured of it. You need to maximize the weight. Unless you have a lot of slope and prone to icing up wheel weights all around with the weight of the blade should be sufficient. That is all I have ever used, didn't even add weight to the rear but I have used chains prior to my driveway getting a nice asphalt coating. Chains are a good idea if you do not have concrete or asphalt.
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Re: Dual rear wheels

Postby Boss Hog » Mon Oct 31, 2011 5:45 pm

If you do use duel rear tires you should have spacers not because of the working loose, but because it will rub the sidewall under heavy use. Also rocks will get between them and rub a hole in them. With the spacers you can see the rock if it does get in between the tires. Dont take my word, ask anyone that has used them for any length of time. Truck tires are the same way they need room in between them.
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Re: Dual rear wheels

Postby BigBill » Mon Oct 31, 2011 6:01 pm

The inside rim center has nothing to hold it with the tapered lug bolt not being in it and only fastened by the friction of the out board rim center its free to loosen up thats what i worried about when i mounted my duallies. Now i have the extra tapered washers to use between the adapter/spacer and the inner rim center.

I pulled out rocks with my duallies without tire chains like up vertical out of the holes we dug and she never spun a tire. The little fcub didn't even grunt even with its 9.9hp she shurely impressed me.

I agree about the rocks flying out of between the tires too i hate dodging that stuff. My bruce lee days are long gone.... :)):
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Re: Dual rear wheels

Postby Bill E Bob » Tue Nov 01, 2011 7:17 am

BigBill wrote:Now i have the extra tapered washers to use between the adapter/spacer and the inner rim center.


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Where did you find the "tapered" washers :?: :?
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Re: Dual rear wheels

Postby BigBill » Tue Nov 01, 2011 10:11 am

I purchased a few extra sets of IH wheel spacers so i have plenty of these tapered washers to mount my duallies on my fcub.
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Re: Dual rear wheels

Postby Buzzard Wing » Tue Nov 01, 2011 6:13 pm

I want a set of dual tires, but for mowing hillsides (stability). Looks like I will need to buy tires so they sorta match, of all the tires I have nothing even comes close, not even the two sets of 9.5 turfs. The factory spacers are hard to come by and expensive. I though someone was making them.

BTW, for winter tires on a vehicle they recommend smaller (narrower) tires for better traction. Gets you closer to the pavement/ground. Unlike sand, float in snow is bad.
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Re: Dual rear wheels

Postby Bob McCarty » Tue Nov 01, 2011 6:30 pm

Larry, There is someone in your area (I think NH) that makes reproductions and sells them on eBay. Someone may know who it is and have contact info.

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Re: Dual rear wheels

Postby Buzzard Wing » Tue Nov 01, 2011 6:43 pm

Thanks Bob, my time line for that is way out.... I am thinking the loader Cub, but that one needs a trip south for brakes and ?? so it will be a while. It's in line after the 64 and that one isn't even in the garage yet. (getting closer to final paint with the L54!)

I do find a Cub is much more stable if you mount the rear tires out.
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