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Adding Weight To Combat Old Man Winter - UPDATE!!

Postby ricky racer » Wed Nov 23, 2011 9:51 pm

As the time for plowing snow is fast approaching, I wanted to add some weight to my Cub. The old girl will push a lot of with just the single rear weights and tire chains but I wanted to see what she'd do with a little more lead in her shorts. I plan on adding another set of rear weights but have been thinking of adding additional ballast on the draw-bar too. This has been discussed in earlier threads.

I decided to use a cast front wheel from a Farmall O4 that I just happen to have. It weighs, according to my trusty deer scales, 250 pounds. To minimize the fabrication, I wanted to utilize the 2" receiver on my draw-bar and use some 2" box tube I had laying around.

I drilled and tapped a hole in the end of a piece of 1-1/4" round bar stock to secure the wheel to the box tube. I welded it to the box tube as shown below:

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Using a washer I made out of some more round stock, I secured it to the box tube.

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It mount it in position on the tractor, I set the assembly on a floor jack and wheeled it into position. I unbolted the 2" receiver and slid it onto the box tube, jacked it into position and bolted the receiver back onto the draw-bar.

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I added a hook to the back of the box tube in case the neighbors 4x4 John Deere compact gets stuck and he needs a pull!! :lol:

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I hope to mount the tire chains, snowplow and add the second set of wheel weights this weekend.
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Re: Adding Weight To Combat Old Man Winter

Postby Goraidh (Jeff) » Wed Nov 23, 2011 10:01 pm

Nice fabrication, Ricky. I'll bet that extra weight will help a lot.

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Re: Adding Weight To Combat Old Man Winter

Postby elkshead » Wed Nov 23, 2011 10:17 pm

Nice job. That looks like a good set up! Now for the snow.
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Re: Adding Weight To Combat Old Man Winter

Postby John *.?-!.* cub owner » Wed Nov 23, 2011 10:48 pm

Looks like a good job, but one word of caution, the way the weight is mounted it is trying to pivot the drawbar brackets in the direction you remove them. Make sure tose bolts are good and tight.
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Re: Adding Weight To Combat Old Man Winter

Postby Pabst » Thu Nov 24, 2011 12:11 am

Nice fabrication! :D
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Re: Adding Weight To Combat Old Man Winter

Postby Winfield Dave » Thu Nov 24, 2011 7:47 am

Good idea and nice work Ricky. :D
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Re: Adding Weight To Combat Old Man Winter

Postby Greg Helmick (Stretch) » Thu Nov 24, 2011 9:05 am

Rick, Again nice job :D you do nice work :{_}:
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Re: Adding Weight To Combat Old Man Winter

Postby calcub » Thu Nov 24, 2011 10:23 am

Nice looking fabrication but, I would agree with John about the design being able to lift the drawbar upward. How about utilizing the empty bolt hole in the final and cut a piece of flat stock long enough to act as a lock or hold down that would extend down to the drawbar bracket. That should keep it from kicking up under severe conditions.
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Re: Adding Weight To Combat Old Man Winter

Postby ricky racer » Thu Nov 24, 2011 11:32 am

John *.?-!.* cub owner wrote:Looks like a good job, but one word of caution, the way the weight is mounted it is trying to pivot the drawbar brackets in the direction you remove them. Make sure tose bolts are good and tight.


Believe it or not, I gave that some thought prior to fabrication. I strived to keep the weight over the centerline of the bolts holding the draw-bar to the final drives. The draw-bar cantilevers to the rear of the tractor from the mounting bolts and the fabrication cantilevers towards the front of the tractor with the weight near the centerline of the mounting bolts. It kind of works like a weight distributing hitch on a trailer.

The weight isn't directly over the centerline of the bolts due to the diameter of the weight and the construction of the 2" receiver. I could have modified the receiver to get the weight back over the centerline but I didn't think it was worth the effort. Did I ever tell you I was kind of lazy? :wink:

I loosened the attachment bolts to check out how the weight would hang.

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It just hangs a little bit off of level. Had I taken the efforts to get the weight exactly on the centerline, I think it would have hung level.

I can push it back to level with just one finger, so I don't think it will be a problem.

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Re: Adding Weight To Combat Old Man Winter

Postby Bill Hudson » Thu Nov 24, 2011 12:13 pm

Rick,

A fella needs to get up before breakfast, to get ahead of you. :)

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Re: Adding Weight To Combat Old Man Winter

Postby Rudi » Fri Nov 25, 2011 11:01 am

Ricky:

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Bill Hudson wrote:A fella needs to get up before breakfast, to get ahead of you. :D


Imagine that :

ricky racer wrote:I can push it back to level with just one finger, so I don't think it will be a problem.


Simply outstanding work -- as usual. That is another reason why you are a such a great fabricator. A lot of thought on a problem, come up with an idea, check out the design, fabricate/test/finalize and voila :!: perfection :D
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Re: Adding Weight To Combat Old Man Winter

Postby John *.?-!.* cub owner » Fri Nov 25, 2011 2:13 pm

Looks like you have it covered. The angle of the picture made it look as if the center of the weight was further forward.
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Re: Adding Weight To Combat Old Man Winter - UPDATE!!

Postby ricky racer » Mon Nov 28, 2011 7:11 pm

I finally got the second set of weights mounted tonight. They are loaners borrowed from another Cubber. I didn't want to change out all the carriage bolts, so I changed out 2 per wheel and replaced the existing 1/2" nuts with coupling nuts.
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Slipping the weight over the 6-1/2" carriage bolts while hanging the weight from the hoist made a pretty easy installation.
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I added a couple of 2-1/4" hex head bolts threaded into the coupling nuts to finish the installation.
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Ok, now I'm ready for snow, which is in the forecast for this Wednesday!! :{_}: Image
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Re: Adding Weight To Combat Old Man Winter

Postby Winfield Dave » Mon Nov 28, 2011 7:29 pm

Looks like you're ready !!
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Re: Adding Weight To Combat Old Man Winter - UPDATE!!

Postby EarlyCub49 » Tue Nov 29, 2011 8:18 am

Great idea, I like your idea of using the coupling nuts, never gave a thought about using them.

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