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Hay Rakes for Cubs ???

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 12:23 am
by BullDAWG
What hay rakes could the cub use, I want to try and get a few cuttings off my Argentine bahia fields...

Thanks Chris aka DAWG

Re: Hay Rakes for Cubs ???

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 12:58 am
by Former Member
I just so happen to have a Rare Ford-Mac Dump Rake Model C 3

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As far as we know, this is the only "mounted" hay rake for a cub. They are capable of pulling side delivery and pull behind dump rakes.

Re: Hay Rakes for Cubs ???

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 5:06 am
by leerenovations
While thats been said, has anyone pulled a side delivery hay rake with their Cub? ANd what size can it pull?

Re: Hay Rakes for Cubs ???

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 6:51 am
by Barnyard
Here is Phil Lenke with his side delivery



And my Cub with a horse drawn dump rake


Re: Hay Rakes for Cubs ???

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 7:23 am
by BullDAWG
This is more what I was talking about, its a IH 14 rake



I also like that old IH 4 rake but I never see those for sale or when they do its the "COLLECTOR" version that they think is plated in 24 crt GOLD



I also like your rake but think the side 1's are better for my purposes



I was just wondering what size you can use so you don't get too big of 1 for the cub to pull

Re: Hay Rakes for Cubs ???

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 8:19 am
by Dusti Snider
Here's pictures of my Poppy & Granny raking hay the summer of 1951 with their new Farmall Cub. Poppy purchased the Cub with a No. 22 mower and No. 8 14' dump rake. He used that rake for years...

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Re: Hay Rakes for Cubs ???

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 9:04 am
by krose
love the old pics!, thanks

Re: Hay Rakes for Cubs ???

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 9:22 am
by Eugene
You want one of the smaller ground wheel powered side delivery rakes - and not a pto powered rake.

Cub can easily handle a 10 or 12 foot rake. The side delivery rake is easy to operate. Makes continuous wind rows. No stopping and starting to dump accumulated hay.

There are usually several side delivery rakes for sale at the local machinery consignment auctions. Price varies. Usually $150 to $200- for one in excellent condition.

Re: Hay Rakes for Cubs ???

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 9:36 am
by Goraidh (Jeff)
Great photos, Dusti. Thanks for sharing.

Re: Hay Rakes for Cubs ???

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 10:20 am
by OliverFarmall
I use 2 different ones.
Ones an old IH 3 bar side delivery rake on steel wheels.
The other is a Dearborn side delivery rake both are ground driven.

Re: Hay Rakes for Cubs ???

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 10:32 am
by Hengy
What is the tongue weight on the rake in that picture? Can the Cub's drawbar carry that weight without bending and would it risk damage to the final drives? I noticed that Phil Lenke's rake has the extra wheels on the front to help bear the weight..

Mike in La Crosse, WI

Re: Hay Rakes for Cubs ???

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 11:00 am
by Jim Becker
Eugene's answer pretty well covered what I would recommend. The newer rakes with the rear drive wheels are more gentle on the hay than the earlier ones with the front drive wheels. The front drive wheels are a carry over from horse-drawn days. The rear drive style would have needed a foretruck for horses. The tongue weight shouldn't be too much for a Cub.

Re: Hay Rakes for Cubs ???

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 11:10 am
by Denny Clayton
MikeInWisconsin wrote:What is the tongue weight on the rake in that picture?

Minimal, Mike. Less than 1/2 of a rear wheel weight.

Re: Hay Rakes for Cubs ???

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 11:38 am
by Rudi
Some examples aside from the IH #4 above would be an IH #5 which apparently is about the right size for a Cub and others that I found when I googled IH Side Delivery Rakes along with this one:

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IH No. 14 Side Delivery Rake

And I guess this one will work as well.

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IH No. 35 Side Delivery Rake

Re: Hay Rakes for Cubs ???

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 1:15 pm
by bythepond88
As for tongue weight, most would not be a problem, but you should check it when you are looking at a prospective purchase. Most of our neighbors had New Holland rakes, that were no problem to pick up and hitch to the tractor. However, my dad bought a Massey Ferguson rake that had a tongue weight well over 100 pounds, took two people to lift it to hitch easily. One person could hitch it in a pinch, but it was an absolute bear.