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Re: Hay Rakes for Cubs ???

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 7:13 pm
by Russ Leggitt
BullDawg,

I have an IH #14 sidedelivery rake that I use each hay season. I am certain that any of my CUBs that are in good mechanical order could pull it, however, I have been concerned about the tongue weight on the drawbar. Especially going over rough ground. I have been looking for one wtith the front support wheel. That would be ideal for a CUB in my opinion. Mr Becker is correct in that the newer sidedelivery rakes were designed to disturb the hay a minimal amount. Baisically it just rolls it over 180 degrees and sideways in the process. This will reduce the loss of leaves especially in forages such as the lespedezas and alfalfa.

Re: Hay Rakes for Cubs ???

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 8:28 pm
by tst
I use the cub to rake hay as it fits perfect between the wndrows and turns sharper than a bigger tractor
Tim

Re: Hay Rakes for Cubs ???

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 9:31 pm
by JoeB
The IH McCormick #15 Side Delivery Rake was advertised with the Cubs in some of the old sales literature. It was replaced by the #14 then later the #35, if I recall correctly. I sold my #15 when I bought a CaseIH 860 last summer. New Holland and New Idea both make good rakes, buy they usually bring a higher price than the IH rakes. A lot of the CaseIH 86's and 860's have the dolly wheel, which makes them easy hook up and should help with bottoming out on unlevel ground. Tongue weight was around 100lbs on the #15, haven't had to lift the 860 by hand yet.

Re: Hay Rakes for Cubs ???

Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2012 11:30 am
by Dusty B
I pull an old steel wheel New Idea that I salvaged from the neighbors fence row. It is a 4 bar and pulls very easily. W/take 1 1/2 swaths of what I cut w/my 5' cub sickle bar mower. Dusty B

Re: Hay Rakes for Cubs ???

Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2012 5:48 pm
by tenn terry t
i have used my 256 new holland rollerbar rake behind our cub more than once

Re: Hay Rakes for Cubs ???

Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2012 7:13 pm
by BullDAWG
Thanks for all that helped n answered, ya'll have helped allot :D

Re: Hay Rakes for Cubs ???

Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2012 8:24 pm
by sgtbull
I have hopes of building a "bull rake" or "sweep rake" for the front of my cub, utilizing the hydraulic lift. I have a stationary baler, and after raking hay into windrows w/ my side delivery rake, a sweep rake would be ideal to get it to the baler. Anyone ever seen one for a cub? I'm otherwise working from a blank slate....

Re: Hay Rakes for Cubs ???

Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2012 9:26 pm
by Eugene
sgtbull wrote:I have hopes of building a "bull rake" or "sweep rake".
Buck Rake. We use to call them buck rakes. There are several modern versions on You-tube.

Re: Hay Rakes for Cubs ???

Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2012 10:48 pm
by Yogie
I see several people in our areas using a side delivery rake with the dolly wheel or what we call trucks in front. From there they have different lengths of pipe to hook up to the draw bar making the rake farther back for sharper turning here in the mountain state. Here in our rough area I wouldn't hook a side delivery rake directly to the draw bar on a cub.

Re: Hay Rakes for Cubs ???

Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2012 2:51 am
by BullDAWG
Here in Mississippi we have mostly flatish grounds. We do have rolling hills but nothing like mountains, and in delta area its all flatter than salt flats :big smile:
but I'd still like the dolly/truck idea to reduce load on drawbar... on a side note ... If I'm putting hay up in barn thats not bailed (loose) does it need to be as dry as if you were going to bail it??? My thinking is that its not as tightly compacted to cause spontaneous combustion...

Re: Hay Rakes for Cubs ???

Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2012 7:34 am
by v w
BullDAWG wrote:Here in Mississippi we have mostly flatish grounds. We do have rolling hills but nothing like mountains, and in delta area its all flatter than salt flats :big smile:
but I'd still like the dolly/truck idea to reduce load on drawbar... on a side note ... If I'm putting hay up in barn thats not bailed (loose) does it need to be as dry as if you were going to bail it??? My thinking is that its not as tightly compacted to cause spontaneous combustion...

Yes. By all means the hay must be dry. It may not be as compact going in but the weight of the hay will pack it as tight as if it were baled. There was/is a device called a hay saw that was used to cut just such compacted hay for easier removal from the mow. I can not really remember loose hay but do remember my "job" was riding the horse pulling the rope to the hay fork. Of course the horse knew what to do anyway. Vern

Edit: EBAY has a dozen or so of these saws listed.

Re: Hay Rakes for Cubs ???

Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2012 7:40 am
by BigMatt
Man, you guys are making me drool over all of these hay rakes.

Re: Hay Rakes for Cubs ???

Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2012 8:58 pm
by JoeB
Heres the #15

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and the #860

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Re: Hay Rakes for Cubs ???

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 9:22 pm
by Eugene
SgtBull/Kelly. Good video on buck raking hay. Drop the blade off your front mounted "Leveling and Grading blade". Shouldn't be to hard to make a Cub sized buck rake.

http://cdi.uvm.edu/collections/item/buckrake

Re: Hay Rakes for Cubs ???

Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 9:26 am
by Winfield Dave
Eugene wrote:SgtBull/Kelly. Good video on buck raking hay. Drop the blade off your front mounted "Leveling and Grading blade". Shouldn't be to hard to make a Cub sized buck rake.
http://cdi.uvm.edu/collections/item/buckrake
Eugene....I can't seem to get the link to work. :(

EDIT: The link is working now (3 pm.)