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Can they do this?

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 7:47 pm
by RedNed

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 7:55 pm
by Jerry Caton
That is definitely Jim Beckers name on the front!!!!

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 8:02 pm
by Marion(57 Loboy)
Hey, algore invented the internet !..........I'm 'sure' this guy could have invented a cub how to book !!!!!!

We here should all run the bids up to well over $1000 on every one of these he puts up and then just don't pay !!!! hehehehehe

I like my 7yr old nephew's saying: Moron...double moron...loser...whatever ! :P :roll:

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 8:22 pm
by George Willer
Thanks, RedNed,

Here's the note I sent to the seller.

"Knock it off with offering stolen material!!! You have no permission to use the pictures of my tractors or others. Our work wasn't intended to create a dishonest profit item for you."

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 8:30 pm
by Jim Becker
I wonder what else is in there. Does it show 22 or 23 pages? Maybe I could run another item "IH Cub FAQ, no binder, A Must For All Farmall Owner" and in the description say "GET THE REVISED EDITION" and list the URL.

By the way, the front page of ATIS does carry a copyright mark although this specific page doesn't.

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 8:32 pm
by Cub-Bud
Good for you George. 8)

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 8:38 pm
by BOB K.
The site owner needs to contact ebay and report this guy. Let them know its been done befoe. Thay may ban him from ebay.

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 8:47 pm
by John *.?-!.* cub owner
I just sent him the following inquiry.

Unless I am in error, I believe you are selling copyrighted material tha was downloaded from the ATIS.net website. do you have the permission of Spencer Yost to use this material, or of the owners of the tracotr shown in it?

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 8:54 pm
by Jim Becker
Looks like you guys fixed it. The item just changed to:

"The seller ended this listing early because the item is no longer available for sale."

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 9:04 pm
by RedNed
Always vigilant.................... :wink:

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 9:16 pm
by Marion(57 Loboy)
RATS !!!...I was SOOOO looking forward to my first 'no pay' negative feedback !!!

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 9:32 pm
by Jim Becker
Guys, I have heard from the seller. It looks like he has gotten the message. Let it die now.

Thanks.

Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2005 4:15 am
by 'Country' Elliott
Hey Jim...I'm glad he had the guts to contact you directly and fess up :oops: ! Hopefully a BIG appology went along with that contact :wink: ? It just "goes ta show ya" that some of today's folks just DON'T WANT TO PLAY BY THE RULES of COMMON COURTESY :evil: !

Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2005 6:49 am
by Buzzard Wing
I did get a very odd response from the seller.
Essentially he thought he could list it without a problem... I guess he learned!

Sharp guys here caught it!

Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2005 7:15 am
by Jim Becker
He did apologize to me. His story is that he got this binder full of stuff along with a big purchase of other manuals. He got the whole pile for resale and didn't realize he was crossing a line with this one. He sells quite a bit on eBay. I looked at all his other current items and the last 2 weeks worth of completed sales. He did have a number of original used manuals listed, but nothing else that I thought was out of line.

Under the circumstances, I think it is appropriate to accept his apology and explanation at face value.