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batter cable hookup

Postby HART » Sun Sep 23, 2012 2:44 pm

My 52 cub has always been hooked 'pos to' pos and negative to ground. batteries have lasted from 2 to 5 yrs. Is there a way to test to see correct hookup and how many years of battery use do other owners get ?

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Re: batter cable hookup

Postby Eugene » Sun Sep 23, 2012 2:58 pm

2 to 5 years is in the normal range for a battery. 5 year service life would be better.

6 volt system should be hooked up with a positive ground. But, you can leave the system hooked up with a negative ground, or polarize the regulator when you install the battery with a positive ground.
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Re: batter cable hookup

Postby Scrivet » Sun Sep 23, 2012 6:12 pm

Eugene wrote: But, you can leave the system hooked up with a negative ground, or polarize the regulator when you install the battery with a positive ground.

Eugene, I know what you mean and most people reading this know what you mean, but for clarity and passing on correct information, shouldn't that be something like....
"But, you can leave the system hooked up with a negative ground, or polarize the generator, easiest by using the wiring connections located on the regulator when you install the battery with a positive ground."

Plus as an additional step don't you need to check how the distributor is wired (if it has one) when changing from positive to negative or negative to positive ground?

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Re: batter cable hookup

Postby Boss Hog » Sun Sep 23, 2012 6:46 pm

Also the regulator must be a pos ground reg to work right if it is pos ground.
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Re: batter cable hookup

Postby Eugene » Sun Sep 23, 2012 7:29 pm

Without getting two technical.
Also the regulator must be a pos ground reg to work right if it is pos ground.
Virtually all of the 6 volt regulators currently on the market are for both positive and negative ground.

The polarization is normally done at the regulator to reverse or change the residual magnetism in the generator's field coils. I've been saying polarization of the regulator for many years - meaning at.

Plus as an additional step don't you need to check how the distributor is wired (if it has one) when changing from positive to negative or negative to positive ground?
You should wire the ignition coil to match the battery grounding, primarily on the systems where the coil secondary is grounded to the coil's metal case. Reality is that if the coil is wired backwards, you normally don't notice a significant lack of engine performance.
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Re: batter cable hookup

Postby Boss Hog » Sun Sep 23, 2012 7:39 pm

they still sell pos ground regulators , maybe that is some of the reason all yawl 6 volt folks have charging problems :D
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Re: batter cable hookup

Postby ricky racer » Sun Sep 23, 2012 7:41 pm

Use of a battery maintainer (not a charger) will greatly increase the life of any battery.
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Re: batter cable hookup

Postby Boss Hog » Sun Sep 23, 2012 8:01 pm

I have also noticed that folks with 6 volt systems have a lot of battery chargers and maintainers :wink:
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Re: batter cable hookup

Postby Boss Hog » Sun Sep 23, 2012 8:09 pm

http://www.ebay.com/itm/IH-FARMALL-VOLT ... 23225813f5
6 volt pos ground reg
How ever when I have to get a 6 volt pos ground reg I buy it elsewhere
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Re: batter cable hookup

Postby Rudi » Sun Sep 23, 2012 8:24 pm

David:

I have to have a battery maintainer on my 12 volt batteries too :roll: :!: When it is -30F/C it doesn't matter if it is 6, 12 or 24 volt - it usually needs help.

I use replacement cut-outs/regulators supplied by my local AC Delco Service Center. Generator and Cut-Out
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Re: batter cable hookup

Postby Buzzard Wing » Mon Sep 24, 2012 7:47 am

For a little more money, you can get an electronic 'smart' charger. It should work for a battery maintainer well, it will cycle as needed. :lost:
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