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Help identify implement parts please

Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 10:47 pm
by Jvanvuren
Hey all,

I'm on a shed-cleaning kick, and have accumulated the following parts over the years. I'm not really sure what some of it is, and figured if I posted a few pictures... 8)

I've done a bunch of looking at TM Tractor's site and have possibly identified a few things. Others are still a mystery. Ideally, I would like to know approximate values for these parts as well. Thanks in advance for any help you can provide!

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These parts came off the same tractor. From TM's site, they appear to be for use with a Cub 189 Two Way Moldboard Plow. What would they be called? Would the lever also work with a 193 plow? I've also got the double chain hook for the rear rockshaft.


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Top two - I have absolutely no idea
Third from top - fast hitch helper spring? Can this serve any purpose on a tractor without a fast hitch? That's how I obtained it.
Bottom two - Cub 22 mower stuff? The smaller one appears to be broken on the end, like it should have threads or a cotter pin hole.


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This stuff all came from the same tractor, and I believe it is all cultivator related. Any idea of what it may be worth?


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More cultivator parts... the spring-loaded ones have a left, right, and center. The other 3 appear to be all the same. I think they are for use with the following pic:


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This stuff and the picture of the actual cultivator "diggers" all came with the same tractor. Is this just a generic toolbar, or is it part of an actual Cub implement? I have a few of the clamps shown, some are for use with round-shank cultivators and some for flat-shank (two of each shown here).

I have a local guy looking to buy cultivator stuff and have absolutely no idea what to ask. I know the front setup is missing some parts, but he has expressed interest even though I made it clear I don't have a complete setup.

Again, thanks for any help you can provide. If more pictures would be helpful, just let me know what you'd like to see.

John

Re: Help identify implement parts please

Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 11:05 pm
by Rudi
John:

You may want to look at these manuals :

Cub-189 Moldboard Plow 11-30-50
Cub-252 Cultivator 1-15-48
Cub-22 Manual 2-5-52
Cub-144 Cultivator 11-30-50

Hope this helps.

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Prices will be determined by how complete the implements are. You do have a Cub-189 parts there, and the Cub-252 Cultivator is quite distinctive. Looks like the stay rod for a Cub-22 Sickle Bar Mower. You can identify some of the tools in either the 252 or the Cub-144 Cultivator Manuals.

Re: Help identify implement parts please

Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 4:51 am
by RaymondDurban
How about I stop by and have a look! :D
PM Sent

Re: Help identify implement parts please

Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 9:53 am
by Jim Becker
I think most of the parts have been correctly identified. My additional thoughts:

The top 2 parts in the second picture: I don't recognize them either. They may not be Cub parts, could be seed drive linkage for something.

Big piece in the last picture: rather than a Cub-252 as suggested, it looks to me like a modified Cub-3 Field Cultivator.

Re: Help identify implement parts please

Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 11:31 am
by EarlyCub49
PM Sent.

Bruce T.

Re: Help identify implement parts please

Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 11:34 am
by John *.?-!.* cub owner
The [parts Jim could not identify I have seen, but not sure where. I am thinking radiator shutter control, though of course they would not be from a cub

Re: Help identify implement parts please

Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 11:41 am
by Jim Becker
John *.?-!.* cub owner wrote:The [parts Jim could not identify I have seen, but not sure where. I am thinking radiator shutter control, though of course they would not be from a cub

GOT IT. Speed control linkage from a power unit.

Re: Help identify implement parts please

Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 3:13 pm
by Don McCombs
PM sent.

Re: Help identify implement parts please

Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 8:59 pm
by K.J. Rutledge
PM sent.

Re: Help identify implement parts please

Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 9:14 pm
by RaymondDurban
After looking through the parts manuals, and looking this over in person, I don't know what it is!!
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Unless there was a major redesign of the 252 from what's in Rudi's manuals, especially where it connects to the UMF, it's not that.
The two pieces of angle were used to bolt to a floating drawbar and are homemade. By the design the connecting bars come that connect the tool bars, it's not a Cub-3 either, although the lifting chains and dual hooks are similar.
There is a few hints of dark blue paint, but no other identifiable markings.

I'm thinking it's something IH but non-Cub that was made to work for a former owner.

Re: Help identify implement parts please

Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 10:07 pm
by Jim Becker
RaymondDurban wrote:I'm thinking it's something IH but non-Cub that was made to work for a former owner.

I think you are right. The bars between the 2 tool bars are built very much like the the tool bar style rear section of the Cub-252. Most parts look like a very close match to parts of the front section of the A-437 cultivator for the Farmall A (but bottom side up).

Re: Help identify implement parts please

Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 10:30 pm
by Rudi
I think so too. Gord had a bunch of A cultivator stuff here for awhile. That frame is pretty reminiscent of that as well. Originally thought it might be the 252 ... but guess not. I definitely will defer to Jim and Raymond on this one.

Re: Help identify implement parts please

Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 1:49 am
by Jvanvuren
Hey guys,

It's late here, but I wanted to post a quick note of appreciation for the information so far. I also want to thank Raymond for stopping by today and answering a lot of my questions.

John

Re: Help identify implement parts please

Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 12:06 pm
by danovercash
The round rod with the spring on it, is it a helper spring for fast hitch, or maybe part of a 54-A blade? All of it did not show up in picture.

Re: Help identify implement parts please

Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 12:31 pm
by RaymondDurban
danovercash wrote:The round rod with the spring on it, is it a helper spring for fast hitch, or maybe part of a 54-A blade? All of it did not show up in picture.

It's a helper spring assembly. The bracket that runs between the fender and transmission is not there.