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Cub hydrauic fluid?
Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2012 12:31 pm
by smack
Is there a fluid available at Tractor Supply company that will serve as the IH TOUCH CONTROL FLUID that the owners manual dictates? I want to ensure to use the right stuff...hopefully Tractor Supply has a good alternative. Thank you all.
Re: Cub hydrauic fluid?
Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2012 1:45 pm
by cub47
They will have suitable and compatible fluids in stock, look on the container label as it will be marked as CASE/IH Hytran compatible.
Re: Cub hydrauic fluid? follow up
Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2012 6:05 pm
by smack
Thank you CubGuy. I stopped by Tractor Supply before reading your reply - I bought Traveler Hydraulic Fluid - ISO 40 for $20.00. They had another premium brand ISO 68 for $40.00 for a two gallon container. I just checked the container of the Traveler and it makes NO mention of compatability wih any tractors - just says for industrial hydraulic systems. I'll stop there tomorrow and check what the other container says. Should I NOT use something unless it lists specific tractor hydraulic systems compatability?? Thanks!
Re: Cub hydrauic fluid?
Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2012 6:31 pm
by Arthur Luke
Re: Cub hydrauic fluid?
Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2012 10:47 pm
by Boss Hog
Hi Tran is about 20 bucks a gal at any Case/IH dealer
Re: Cub hydrauic fluid - thank you
Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2012 6:13 am
by smack
Thank you guys for the clarification - seems I indeed bought the wrong item yesterday. They did not have the recommended Universal Tractor Trans/Hydraulic Fluid on the shelf - hopefully some out back!
Re: Cub hydrauic fluid?
Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2012 8:20 am
by Yogie
Napa also has the fluid in stock and it says right on the container that it can replace Hytran.
Re: Cub hydrauic fluid?
Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2012 10:20 am
by Rudi
I agree with Boss on this one. When possible as in having a CaseIH dealer within close proximity, it is best to use Hy-Tran or Hy-Tran Ultra. I always used Hy-Tran, cost is comparable to many others except at places like TSC , Wally World etc. Since I have completed my splitter project and the splitter must be available to use on either my Cub or my brother-in-law Ray's Massey 1040 I now use Perma Tran - which actually exceeds Hy-Tran specs. Since my Cub will only use slightly less than 2 gallons and the Massey will use somewhere around 10 gallons, it makes sense to use the same fluids. I did a fair amount of research before I switched.
There is a reason why IH developed Hy-Tran to replace the 10wt oil they used originally. Also the other fluids out there did not from what I understand impress IH so they developed their own.
The above is JIMHO.
Re: Cub hydrauic fluid? follow up
Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2012 5:37 pm
by ricky racer
smack wrote:Thank you CubGuy. I stopped by Tractor Supply before reading your reply - I bought Traveler Hydraulic Fluid - ISO 40 for $20.00. They had another premium brand ISO 68 for $40.00 for a two gallon container. I just checked the container of the Traveler and it makes NO mention of compatability wih any tractors - just says for industrial hydraulic systems. I'll stop there tomorrow and check what the other container says. Should I NOT use something unless it lists specific tractor hydraulic systems compatability?? Thanks!
The main difference between industrial and AG based hydraulic fluids is industrial hyd. fluids do not have
pour point additives added to them. The pour point additives are additives that are added to hydraulic oil that will be used in colder climates to reduce wear and improve flow until the system is warmed up. Industrial oils are typically used in a fairly constant indoors ambient environment.
I don't know that much about oils but I had a
Lunch & Learn with an Exxon Mobil representative on Friday and we discussed this very issue.
Re: Cub hydrauic fluid?
Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2012 6:31 pm
by Former Member
Rudi wrote:There is a reason why IH developed Hy-Tran to replace the 10wt oil they used originally. Also the other fluids out there did not from what I understand impress IH so they developed their own.
I think they call it---Marketing
Re: Cub hydrauic fluid?
Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2012 6:59 pm
by Rudi
Case AkcelaHyTran Ultra Tractor Fluid
HyTran Ultra Tractor Fluid (MS-1209)
A unique all-weather hydraulic/transmission fluid
HyTran Ultra is designed to handle transmission, wet brake, and hydraulic systems. HyTran Ultra will enhance your brake and clutch capabilities, while helping to reduce brake chatter, clutch slippage and wear, and final drive wear. HyTran Ultra fluid is designed for use in ambient temperatures of –20F (-30C) to 120F (50C).
Specifically designed to provide better water tolerance and filtration efficiency than typical anti-wear hydraulic fluids. Water tolerance is crucial for preventing additive drop-out, filter plugging, and sluggish performance.
Blended to provide the stable viscosity essential to maintaining optimum machine performance and long-life.
Superior wear protection for hydraulic components, drive train gears and other transmission parts.
Controlled frictional characteristics provide smooth operation of wet brakes and clutches. Special non-zinc additives ensure a thermally and hydrolytically stable product, keep the system free of deposits, and prevent the creation of corrosive by-products.
Meets the frictional requirements of Caterpillar TO-2 and Allison C-3, as well as all performance requirements of the former International Harvester B-6 specification.
Thoroughly tested and approved by CNH engineering. Meets Case specification MS-1209.
A very informative site, one I go to often when I have research to do on lubricants.
Re: Cub hydrauic fluid?
Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2012 9:11 pm
by danovercash
Any ideas on how to reclaim new Hy-Train that has leaked out of the original container? I have it contained in a wash basin, but want to know if it can be filtered, or should I just find another use for it?
Re: Cub hydrauic fluid?
Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2012 9:54 pm
by Buzzard Wing
Yep Boss, Bill Hudson grabbed some Hy Tran for me from Columbia Tractor and it was $22 with tax. In my opinion it is worth finding or worth Bill having to go back to the store to fetch for me
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All the later manuals list it FIRST for transmission, final drives and even the right angle pulley. A gallon will fill the TC and transmission.
Re: Cub hydrauic fluid?
Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 7:25 am
by Rudi
danovercash wrote:Any ideas on how to reclaim new Hy-Train that has leaked out of the original container? I have it contained in a wash basin, but want to know if it can be filtered, or should I just find another use for it?
Dan:
I would use a paper cone filter that is used for finishing. You can get them at Lowe's, Home Depot and of course Auto Finishing Supply houses. They are fine enough to remove any particulates that may have infiltrated the Hy-Tran.
Re: Cub hydrauic fluid?
Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 8:13 am
by DanR
I too went to TSC yesterday to read the labels. Only one, Universal Tractor, even mentioned IH or High-Tran.