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Postby cmdjsd » Sun Nov 11, 2012 1:02 pm

Hello,

I am new to Farmall Cubs and I am looking to get a plow for my 1950 Farmall Cub, but I am getting confused over what plow I need. Any help would be very helpfull.
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Re: Plows

Postby Bob McCarty » Sun Nov 11, 2012 4:06 pm

Cmdjsd, Welcome to the Forum. Unless you have a fast hitch on your Cub, the choices would be a 193 (most common) or a 189 (which is a 2-way). Those are both moldboard plows. There is also the 151 and 152 which are both disc plows (one is belly mount, the other trails behind). A fast hitch takes a 194. If you click on "manuals" above, you will find manuals for all the variations. Feel free to ask any additional questions you might have.

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Re: Plows

Postby John *.?-!.* cub owner » Sun Nov 11, 2012 4:17 pm

It depends on your preference, the molboard plow like this one are the most common, also available as a 2 way
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Followed by the 152 belly mount (image from Rays tractors)
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and my favorite which is the 151 rear mount.
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There is also a 2 bottom version of the 151 called a 12D Harrow plow, that plowed a wider furrow but not as deep. I do not have pictures of the 12D though
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Re: Plows

Postby Eugene » Sun Nov 11, 2012 4:19 pm

Soil type is a major consideration in the required plow. What type of soil do you have? If the soil contains a lot of rock or tree roots, the disk type plow would be preferable.

There are videos of both the mold board and disk plows working the soil on the internet.
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Re: Plows

Postby tmays » Sun Nov 11, 2012 5:29 pm

The fellers have given you excellent advice. You'll find that the 152 would probably be the simplest plow to operate if you are new to plowing. Basically just bolt it on and go to plowing. I can't speak about the 151 or 12D. I do wish I could find a 151
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Re: Plows

Postby John *.?-!.* cub owner » Sun Nov 11, 2012 5:41 pm

tmays wrote:The fellers have given you excellent advice. You'll find that the 152 would probably be the simplest plow to operate if you are new to plowing. Basically just bolt it on and go to plowing. I can't speak about the 151 or 12D. I do wish I could find a 151
I like the 151, due to how easy it is to install. I leave the brackets on the year round, so just back up to it and flip 2 eye bolts up and tighten them and instal lift rod and steering rod. It does make your tractor pretty long, but does steer on the rear. The 152 is real good for fenced gardens where turning room is critical.
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Re: Plows

Postby clodhopper » Sun Nov 11, 2012 9:50 pm

I just gOt a 193 this year. Luckily for me it was the three piece bottom, of which I can still get parts for. I bought a new point for it at agri supply for 7.00. At any rate, even though I grew up farming, we didn't own any bottom plows. They just weren't needed, so this is new to me too. I am finding that once you get the plow adjusted correctly, it's amazing how well the cub and 193 will plow. After that I run over it with the cadet and tiller, and it makes the nicest planting beds you've ever seen! :{_}:
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Re: Plows

Postby Scrivet » Sun Nov 11, 2012 11:02 pm

tmays wrote:The fellers have given you excellent advice. You'll find that the 152 would probably be the simplest plow to operate if you are new to plowing. Basically just bolt it on and go to plowing. I can't speak about the 151 or 12D. I do wish I could find a 151

The 152 will work just bolted on but it does a much better job with the front right wheel adjusted out, and if the axle tube is stuck that can be quite a job.

I have a 193, a 152, and a 151. If I'm plowing new ground my choice is the 152 belly mount disk plow. If I'm plowing something that's been plowed and want to really turn some dirt it's the 193 moldboard hands down. If I want to waste some time, pretend to be plowing, get totally frustrated, and use lots of Navy words I hook up my 151 trailing disk plow.

***In the interest of full disclosure the 151 is a fine plow and does great. John *.?-!.* cub owner plowed the same ground at the same time with the one in his picture and his did a wonderful job. Mine, well, didn't. We measured, compared, analyzed, theorized, and a few other eds and never figured out why. Since then I have decided it's the paint :D his is pretty implement blue, mine is ugly brown rust.***
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Re: Plows

Postby Rudi » Sun Nov 11, 2012 11:05 pm

G'day to you and congrats on becoming a brand new Cub owner :applause:

Suggest you look at the Implement Manuals at the links below and then compare some of the mounting pics of plows at TM Tractor's Implement Hookup Gallery. The guys have given you good advice.. and your choice really will depend on the type of soil on your property/in your area. Personally I have a Cub-193 and a Cub-189 and I simply love the 193. The soil just rolls off of the moldboard and Ellie has no problems pulling the plow through our clay type soils.

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Re: Plows

Postby clodhopper » Sun Nov 11, 2012 11:07 pm

***In the interest of full disclosure the 151 is a fine plow and does great. John *.?-!.* cub owner plowed the same ground at the same time with the one in his picture and his did a wonderful job. Mine, well, didn't. We measured, compared, analyzed, theorized, and a few other eds and never figured out why. Since then I have decided it's the paint :D his is pretty implement blue, mine is ugly brown rust.***


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193 moldboard plow

Postby allneatstuff » Mon Nov 19, 2012 3:47 pm

Just picked up a 193 plow and Depth adjuster- I have a sickle bar attached to my 47 Cub how much of that do I have to remove to put the plow on- Thanks-
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Re: Plows

Postby Bill Hudson » Mon Nov 19, 2012 3:50 pm

Everything but the drive pulley. That's why many folks have a Cub for each implement. :)
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Re: 193 moldboard plow

Postby Stanton » Mon Nov 19, 2012 3:56 pm

[edit: Bill, ya beat me to it. Thanks!]

allneatstuff wrote:Just picked up a 193 plow and Depth adjuster- I have a sickle bar attached to my 47 Cub how much of that do I have to remove to put the plow on- Thanks-


You can double check the "MANUALS" section at the top of page for each, but I'm thinking you'd totally remove the sickle bar mower to hook up a 193. When I attach a 193, the drawbar is reinstalled toward the front (just under the seat in a forward position) and a depth control lever is also installed (which hooks up to the corner of the drawbar). You would probably be able to leave the PTO pulley from the sickle bar on. :wink:

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Re: Plows

Postby John *.?-!.* cub owner » Mon Nov 19, 2012 8:44 pm

Scrivet wrote:............ If I want to waste some time, pretend to be plowing, get totally frustrated, and use lots of Navy words I hook up my 151 trailing disk plow.

***In the interest of full disclosure the 151 is a fine plow and does great. John *.?-!.* cub owner plowed the same ground at the same time with the one in his picture and his did a wonderful job. Mine, well, didn't. We measured, compared, analyzed, theorized, and a few other eds and never figured out why. Since then I have decided it's the paint :D his is pretty implement blue, mine is ugly brown rust.***
Scrivet and I both spent quite a bit of time trying to figure out why his plow did not work worth a hoot,. We came up with theories, but no solutions. Mine works great, his trails off to the side, etc. Only thing we could figure is that the pivots, etc. were worn out.
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Re: Plows

Postby allneatstuff » Tue Nov 20, 2012 8:01 am

Everything but the sicklebar drive pulley to put on the 193- Thanks-
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