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Cub key

Postby Thackery » Tue Nov 27, 2012 1:54 pm

I lost my Lo-Boy key while making several trips around the barnyard. We looked for it but never did find it. It even had a brass tag on it but there is no sign of it. The ignition is worn enough that it would let the key slide out. Tough way to find out. So where can I get another key or should I just change it out altogether. This is on a 68 with key On and push button starter switch.
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Re: Cub key

Postby Rudi » Tue Nov 27, 2012 2:15 pm

Thackery:

You could simply take the key cylinder assembly out of the dash, go to you local locksmith shop and they can make a set for you. IF you remember what the key looked like - basically a round head brass key, they can pretty much match it.

I am looking in the TC-37 series to see what I can find. Found the key for the Magneto equipped Cubs with keyed ignition.
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Re: Cub key

Postby Jim Becker » Tue Nov 27, 2012 2:44 pm

IH didn't go big on using different keys. In fact, the Cubs may have all used the same key. I've never verified they were all the same, but my limited sample size suggests so. Between a '79 Cub, '66 LoBoy, a Cub Cadet and a 154 that are here, the only different key is in the 154. But the 154 switch works with any key inserted about any amount, so I don't think the key that happens to be in it means much. Probably anyone with an extra original key from a Cub etc. can fix you up.
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Re: Cub key

Postby Eugene » Tue Nov 27, 2012 3:38 pm

Try the key from your lawn or garden tractor and perhaps your neighbors. Agree with Jim, not only IH but many other manufacturers used the same key. Last time I needed a Cub Cadet key I picked it up at a small engine shop/dealership for less than a dollar.

NAPA and Federated part number: 7-01862 fits most lawn and garden equipment including Cub Cadet. 7-01904 is same key with a slightly different shaped head.

That is unless the cylinder and switch were replaced at some time in the past. In this case it's cheaper to purchase a new switch than to have a locksmith rekey the cylinder.
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Re: Cub key

Postby Hengy » Tue Nov 27, 2012 3:41 pm

Well, isn't that funny... you learn something new every day. Having never had a key-start cub (or other IH tractor), I never would have known that they would use the same key!!
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Re: Cub key

Postby Larry G » Tue Nov 27, 2012 3:57 pm

If I remember from my days working at an IH dealer (1963) all the keys were the same.
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Re: Cub key

Postby Thackery » Tue Nov 27, 2012 4:10 pm

I figured it was a relatively simple key. I can turn the cylinder with just about any small metal object but thats kind of inconvenient. I guess I can just find any old key and try it. Maybe I will replace it with a push/pull kill switch.
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Re: Cub key

Postby Don McCombs » Tue Nov 27, 2012 4:10 pm

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Re: Cub key

Postby Barnyard » Tue Nov 27, 2012 4:21 pm

A lot of equipment takes the same key. My EZGo key fits other EZ-Go Carts, my Cubota starts our Jeep club mower as well as two other Kubotas owned by friends. Even heavy equipment isn't immune. When I was in excavating I carried one key that fit all our Catepiller track loaders and bulldozers.

Off topic humor: Just before I went into the army many years ago, I had a 1956 Pontiac. My buddy had a 1953 Pontiac. I found that if I put my key in his ignition and backed it out one click I could start his car. He did not know this and after more than 40 years I still don't think he knows. If I saw his car sitting in front of a tavern in town I would stop and move it several spaces down and feed the parking meter. One night a bunch of us were out late and as I went passed his house on the way home I stopped and moved his car from his mom's driveway to his neighbors driveway. A couple days later some of us met for a late lunch and a couple of cold ones. Mike came in and I told the girl behind the bar to give him a beer on me. He politely refused and said he would wait awhile. He said he was starting to misplace his car after having a few too many so he wanted to cut back.
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Re: Cub key

Postby Mr E » Tue Nov 27, 2012 4:29 pm

Interesting story! I won a couple of bucks off a buddy of mine in high school after I figured out the key of my Granddad's old Chevy pickup would start up his Mom''s brand new Implala. As you said, you insert the key and back it out one click. :lol: :lol:
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Re: Cub key

Postby Boss Hog » Tue Nov 27, 2012 4:47 pm

They are all the same any Case/ IH dealer shold have one in stock, also some B/S keys will work as well as some John Deere ones the key blank is a B 1 if you want to make an extra. the originals are about 6 bucks
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Re: Cub key

Postby Bus Driver » Tue Nov 27, 2012 4:54 pm

Interesting. It appears that Briggs-Stratton was the lock maker.
This site shows several key blanks that will work. For the hardware store keys, I often find the interchange blanks that will work before I go to the store.
http://mysecuritypro.com/briggsandstrat ... lanks.aspx

Also Axxess 78 is equivalent.
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Re: Cub key

Postby CapeCodCubs » Tue Nov 27, 2012 4:55 pm

Well at least you didn't lock yourself out of the tractor...nothing worse than staring in at the key in the ignition and having no way to get inside. :lol: :lol:
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Re: Cub key

Postby Clark Thompson » Tue Nov 27, 2012 5:23 pm

Jim is correct. Most if not all pre 1980 IH keys for cubs, cub cadets and pre 1958 IH trucks alll used the same exact key.I use my 1964 cub cadet key in all my old trucks. I also have old IH pad locks that came with a new TD8 dozer years ago. those keys fit my IH trucks and tractors as well.
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Re: Cub key

Postby thiggy » Tue Nov 27, 2012 5:24 pm

My JD X320 lawn tractor and DR Brush Mower both use the same key.
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