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cub snowblower

Postby ad356 » Thu Dec 27, 2012 12:33 pm

with all of this talk about removing snow with cubs using blades i was wondering how common a cub snow blower is? how well did they work? seems like they ran on their own engine looks like it was about a 10hp briggs. why didn't they use the PTO on the cub and drive the snowblower off of the PTO, why use an auxiliary engine? seems like danco also made a snowblower for the cub much like the IH unit with its own engine, seems like they arent very common units. why didnt they make a rear mount snowblower like you would find on more modern tractors, its seems like that arrangement would work great, you could have a rear mounted snowblower and keep the blade on the front, that would be quite the animal for snow removal i think. use the blower for the really big piles and use the blade for the smaller stuff.

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Re: cub snowblower

Postby bythepond88 » Thu Dec 27, 2012 12:45 pm

I looked into a thrower attachment when I ran into trouble trying to push deep snow on a long driveway (140' plus and running between two houses, so I had to push straight ahead). I could get about 20 feet, and then she'd start spinning.

As far as I know, there was no snowblower made for the cultivision cubs or lo-boys before the number series, and those made for the number series will not work without significant modification.

That being said, I have seen reference to several blowers mounted on cubs that use an external power source, but they all seem to be one-offs.
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Re: cub snowblower

Postby cub47 » Thu Dec 27, 2012 1:16 pm

Danco did make a snowblower attachment that was front mounted and ran off of the standard Cub and Cub Loboy PTO shafts in the rear. Whether or not the numbered series had one made for them specifically, I do not know.

Page 51 & 53 in Ken Updike's book shows a picture of it.

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Re: cub snowblower

Postby Don McCombs » Thu Dec 27, 2012 1:26 pm

Actually, there was a Cub specific snowblower produced by Danco and sold by IH. It used an auxiliary motor to drive the blower.

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Re: cub snowblower

Postby gitractorman » Thu Dec 27, 2012 1:44 pm

It also doubled as a "seat warmer" with that exhaust there by the battery box. :lol:
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Re: cub snowblower

Postby Eugene » Thu Dec 27, 2012 2:28 pm

ad356 wrote:Why didn't they use the PTO on the cub and drive the snowblower off of the PTO, why use an auxiliary engine?
You need to keep the snowblower rpms up and vary the tractor ground speed to match snow conditions. A standard transmission, without a creeper gear, 1st gear at high idle, the ground speed is frequently to fast for snow conditions.
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Re: cub snowblower

Postby CapeCodCubs » Thu Dec 27, 2012 3:46 pm

Eugene wrote:
ad356 wrote:Why didn't they use the PTO on the cub and drive the snowblower off of the PTO, why use an auxiliary engine?
You need to keep the snowblower rpms up and vary the tractor ground speed to match snow conditions. A standard transmission, without a creeper gear, 1st gear at high idle, the ground speed is frequently to fast for snow conditions.
Absolutely right about the cub having to much ground speed.

I had a Cub snow thrower...I sold to a forum member for $25 which was all he figured it would be worth if it didn't throw wet snow. Who knows what he did with it...I am sure it will appear out here in some pix at some point with an auxillery engine. EddieH up in Canada had the start of a nice project going with one,too. Not sure if he ever finished his. Having trouble with Photohost to get at the pix. Will post pix soon.
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Re: cub snowblower

Postby DickB » Thu Dec 27, 2012 5:38 pm

Sure brings back memories of snowblowers. I had a Simplicity walk behind model. How do I recall that flash of wet snow, caught by the wind, and flung right into my face? Not very kindly. But for getting fresh snow over a mound of the already packed solid white stuff, I now use a shovel and wonder about a snowblower....

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Re: cub snowblower

Postby Rudi » Thu Dec 27, 2012 6:32 pm

When I first started thinking about building a front mounted snow blower for my Cub a number of years ago it was pretty much pooh-poohed as not viable. The big fixation seemed to be on the PTO and ground speed. To me the obvious solution was to do what IH did way back when and that was to use an auxiliary power source. Not being a real steel fabricator, I had ideas but no clear idea how to put it all together so I did some research. I reached out to Rejean an inet chum over in Quebec who built his a number of years ago. A Cub cannot blow snow? This proves otherwise...



And the video he posted showing the details



I always knew it could work. Mine is getting there - just need some time to fabricate that isn't broken up by med issues :big give up: Rejean and Rick have been a huge help and all that is really left is to physically put it together. All the pieces are there now. And boy could I ever use it now - it is snowing and it seems we are in the midst of a Winter Storm Warning. Lots of blowing snow, high winds. I just hope it doesn't rain tonight.

I have an IH-50 that I am kind of curious how to put to good use. Those puppies can really chug some snow hooked up to a Numbered Cub with the creeper gear. For a single stage they are pretty decent. Some day I will figure out a use for it.
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Re: cub snowblower

Postby ad356 » Sat Dec 29, 2012 9:50 am

is that snowblower in the video something that was produced by IH or was it something that someone custom built? also how common is the danco unit because i have seen pictures but i have never actually seen one for sale? it seems like it would be quite useful and would really add to the cub's already good snow removing ability. i wonder why there werent more produced. too bad a modern company wouldnt produce one for the cub today the way woods still produces mowers for the cubs.

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Re: cub snowblower

Postby Don McCombs » Sat Dec 29, 2012 10:29 am

The one in the video was custom adapted to the Cub. Don't know how many of the Danco's were built. But, I have never seen one, or a recent photo of one. I'm sure there are some out there, though. There are not enough Cubs left in service to make it profitable for someone to produce one. Bear in mind that the Woods mower deck that you speak of is used in many different applications. Only the bracketry is different between models.
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Re: cub snowblower

Postby CapeCodCubs » Sat Dec 29, 2012 10:56 am

Image Here is the one I had,lady said is was on her husbands lowboy.
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Re: cub snowblower

Postby Jim Becker » Sat Dec 29, 2012 11:29 am

If you want a new one, there are multiple versions made for ATVs and the like. Several could certainly be adapted for a Cub with little difficulty. For example:
http://www.jimsrepairjimstractors.com/4-wheeler-snow-thrower.htm

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Re: cub snowblower

Postby Don McCombs » Sat Dec 29, 2012 1:24 pm

I don't think that's a Danco, Chris.

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Re: cub snowblower

Postby CapeCodCubs » Sat Dec 29, 2012 5:14 pm

Nah Don, it's not but it came from an IH dealer. Has a frame that mounts under the Cub. I got it with a bunch of other Cub equipment. Maybe the new owner will chime in.I suspect he's been working on it...getting the engine on. Bob Perry....any updates?
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