1949 flail mower idler pulleys

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1949 flail mower idler pulleys

Postby 00slt4x4 » Tue Jan 08, 2013 6:10 pm

Hey fellas i have a different setup on my cub than i have seen on other cubs for the belly flail mower. One of my 7 inch pulleys has a big chunk broken off and it likes to kick the belt off and tear it up. i was wondering does any one have a clue where i can get one of theese pulleys? and is this setup not from a cub i have never seen it again but on mine? my mower also has a arm that bolts on the tractor to lift it up and down with 2 small chains and all every other ones ive seen has just a chain for lifting. is mine old or just oddball my serial number is 81390 so i assume im a 1949.i will attach photos of pulley setup any help would be awesome. thanks
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Re: 1949 flail mower idler pulleys

Postby Eugene » Tue Jan 08, 2013 7:33 pm

Remove the pulley, measure the axle diameter. Take the pulley to any industrial supply store, nearest tractor dealership, or contact Flailmaster.com. They will be able to fix you up.
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Re: 1949 flail mower idler pulleys

Postby John *.?-!.* cub owner » Tue Jan 08, 2013 8:48 pm

what you have is the early model idler and lift. I believe the pulley is the same for either one though, even with being mounted differently.
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Re: 1949 flail mower idler pulleys

Postby Buzzard Wing » Tue Jan 08, 2013 9:54 pm

Do you know if there is any number on it? Not wise about belly mount flail mowers, but early rotary mowers used a cast pulley and were later a stamped (and riveted) pulley.

For an idler pulley, you should be good with one of those.

If you don't find any other info on it, let me know and I will dig up the place that sells pulleys.

Also, Flailmaster and Montage (sp) are really good to deal with and a phone call to them may help.
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Re: 1949 flail mower idler pulleys

Postby Don McCombs » Wed Jan 09, 2013 9:02 am

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Re: 1949 flail mower idler pulleys

Postby ntrenn » Wed Jan 09, 2013 10:20 am

If you are handy with a welder, you can weld in a section to repair the one you have. My dad could have done it. If you have a welder close by that would try it just for giggles, give it a try. I have one near me that is cocky enough that he would do it for free just to prove he could....
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Re: 1949 flail mower idler pulleys

Postby Buzzard Wing » Wed Jan 09, 2013 7:44 pm

Good point, I have used a cast pulley on my fast hitch flail mower that was repaired and ran it without a problem for a couple of years. But it does look like they used the original broken piece in the repair.

The advantage of a cast pulley is you can press the old bearing out and a new one in. The riveted together, pressed pulleys are not so easy to replace the bearings on.
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Re: 1949 flail mower idler pulleys

Postby John *.?-!.* cub owner » Wed Jan 09, 2013 9:44 pm

Buzzard Wing wrote:........The advantage of a cast pulley is you can press the old bearing out and a new one in. The riveted together, pressed pulleys are not so easy to replace the bearings on.
i tried replacing the bearings in my original cast pulleys, but when I tried, the were an odd size that no one could supply.
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Re: 1949 flail mower idler pulleys

Postby ntrenn » Thu Jan 10, 2013 10:03 am

John, I had the same problem until I found the Ag bearing section of the Timken catalog. For whatever reason, Ag bearings are even inch dimensions - 1/2, 5/8, 3/4, while all other bearings are metric - 20, 25, 30.
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Re: 1949 flail mower idler pulleys

Postby Smokeycub » Tue Jan 15, 2013 11:12 am

One can usually get cast pullys from your local bearing distributor. Judging from your zip code you could try Akron Bearing.
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Re: 1949 flail mower idler pulleys

Postby TJG » Tue Jan 15, 2013 7:08 pm

I have a very early flail mower and the idler pulleys mount further back on the drawbar than where yours are located. mine mount where they bridge over the "U".

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Re: 1949 flail mower idler pulleys

Postby KETCHAM » Sat Jan 19, 2013 7:14 am

Akron Bearing should be able to help...Got a lot of Harley bearings thru them and other stuff.Good place and good idea Ray..Kevin :shock: :shock: :shock: :{_}: :{_}: :{_}: :{_}:
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Re: 1949 flail mower idler pulleys

Postby Rudi » Sat Jan 19, 2013 9:57 am

Suggest you check out the For Sale Cub's subforum - there is a flail unit being parted out. Might be a source of replacement pulleys for you. It is about 3/4's of the way down the page.
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