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tires with calcium chloride solution

Postby tom-joat » Sat Mar 02, 2013 7:11 pm

:help: My newly purchased 1961 cub has one tire that is old (probably original) that is filled with calcium chloride solution. The other tire is a new Continental AG tire ( air).
My question is how do your remove and dispose of the calcium chloride solution when the tire is replaced.
Also, does it mater if you have different brands of tires on the rear wheels?
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Re: tires with calcium chloride solution

Postby Don McCombs » Sat Mar 02, 2013 7:27 pm

Will you be changing the tire yourself or will you have it done at a shop? If the latter, they can drain it for you. Otherwise, check this out... http://www.farmallcub.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=65363&p=532891&hilit=calcium+chloride#p532891. If there has been any leakage, you may find the inside of the rim to be heavily rusted. If so, you will want to clean up and paint the rim before installing the new tire. Functionally, it doesn't matter if the tires are different brands as long as the treads are similar.
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Re: tires with calcium chloride solution

Postby birddog » Sat Mar 02, 2013 8:15 pm

It's basically the same as salt water. Depending where you live and how restrictive your zoning laws you should be able to drain it yourself. If I wasn't going to reuse it what I did until I had my drive paved was just drain it onto the gravel. It will kill grass if you get it on the lawn. Another do it yourself and be a little more "green" would be to drain it into a tub, pool or barrel and let the water evaporate then dispose of the dried residue.
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Re: tires with calcium chloride solution

Postby danovercash » Sat Mar 02, 2013 10:21 pm

I found calcium hard to remove, siphoning, trying to pump did not get rid of all the salt water. Unless going back with CaLc, I would opt for a new tube, probably a good idea no mater what you fill the tire with. IMHO inflated tire diameters should be simular also.
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Re: tires with calcium chloride solution

Postby Rudi » Sat Mar 02, 2013 10:26 pm

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Re: tires with calcium chloride solution

Postby Clark Thompson » Sun Mar 03, 2013 12:40 pm

Take the rim and tire off at the wheel center. then face the air valve down with a 6 inch opposit the valve. Unscrew the valve and let it blow. when it stops blowing take a compressed air with a blow gun to put pressure back in the tube. let blow again. repeat till it is emty. Calcium chloride wond hurt a thing. JUst dont do it on your lawn. I prefere doing it on a gravel drive to keep the weeds down.
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Re: tires with calcium chloride solution

Postby Eugene » Sun Mar 03, 2013 1:15 pm

On larger tractor tires I first block (secure) the tractor. Jack up tire to be removed. Valve stem at top, remove valve stem. Rotate tire to valve stem on bottom. Remove jack to let the tire go flat. Leave over night to drain most of the fluid. Next morning wash down the area and tractor tire with water.

Dismount tire and tube. There will still be fluid in the tube. Hang tube with valve stem on bottom. Rotate the bottom half of the tube to put the valve stem down. This will fully drain the tube.

To rinse inside of tube, partially fill the tube with water. Slosh around. Re hang to drain. Two or three times.
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Re: tires with calcium chloride solution

Postby Eikel » Sun Mar 03, 2013 8:53 pm

If you'd like to fill the tires but avoid the corrosive nature of CC, winshild washer is a good alternative.
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Re: tires with calcium chloride solution

Postby Eikel » Sun Mar 03, 2013 8:54 pm

Should have said windshield washer fluid
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Re: tires with calcium chloride solution

Postby danovercash » Sun Mar 03, 2013 9:03 pm

I used automotive anti-freeze. Found on sale, bought 6 gallons. Also have a friend who wants to give me some used anti-freeze. Think I will not fill tires until I am able to get rid of these 50 year old tires. I like liquid and weights.
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Re: tires with calcium chloride solution

Postby lombard » Wed Mar 06, 2013 9:00 pm

WATER ADDS ABOUT 70# TO EACH WHEEL-----CALC. CHLORIDE ADDS ABOUT
300#----I USE C.C.-----NO HOLES IN TUBE----NO RUST----

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Re: tires with calcium chloride solution

Postby danovercash » Wed Mar 06, 2013 9:10 pm

Not so Lombard, I had a good tube with a bad stem. Leaked and rusted the rim through from the outside in. (New tube with anti-freeze in old tire.) Tube still working good with air only. I like liquid ballast BTW , and cast iron, some of each on both rears.
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Re: tires with calcium chloride solution

Postby tst » Wed Mar 06, 2013 9:38 pm

I use calcuim in all the tractors, yes it corrodes the valves , when they leak it rots rims so every couple of years I just replace the valves before they leak, they are only $6 a pair and i have no problems
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Re: tires with calcium chloride solution

Postby ntrenn » Wed Mar 06, 2013 10:06 pm

So....standard cub 8.3x24 tires look to hold 13 gallons of liquid or so....(9.5's hold about 17 gallons)
30% calcium chloride solution gives 142 lbs of ballast per tire
50/50 ethylene glycol gives about 115 lbs per tire
Rimguard claims 139 lbs ballast per tire
Windshield washer fluid gives about 106 lbs per tire.

I don't think any of us will miss the 34 lbs per tire difference between the heaviest and the lightest ballasted tire...
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Re: tires with calcium chloride solution

Postby lombard » Thu Mar 07, 2013 5:54 am

NTRENN-------DONT KNOW WHAT A 30% C.C. SOLUTION IS----I JUST TOLD
THEM ( TIRE SHOP ) TO PUT ALL THE C.C. IN THAT IT WOULD TAKE AND I THINK
HE SAID 250 TO TO 300 LB..------????

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