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63 cub

Postby MO,CUBS » Sun Mar 24, 2013 8:49 pm

Can someone tell me the serial number break in 1963 when they went from the round front to the square front end thanks.
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Re: 63 cub

Postby Tezell » Sun Mar 24, 2013 9:01 pm

222501
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Re: 63 cub

Postby MO,CUBS » Sun Mar 24, 2013 10:01 pm

Ok thank you.
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Re: 63 cub

Postby Scrivet » Sun Mar 24, 2013 10:16 pm

Or it could be 17201 if your talking loboys.
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Re: 63 cub

Postby joemcc » Tue Mar 26, 2013 7:16 am

My 63 is a 2224** serial number, red with the squared off front end..... the numbers can be off a little right around the time they officially switch over.
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Re: 63 cub

Postby Scrivet » Tue Mar 26, 2013 1:56 pm

joemcc wrote:My 63 is a 2224** serial number, red with the squared off front end..... the numbers can be off a little right around the time they officially switch over.
I personally don't think the numbers are "off a little". If your serial numbers ends in something in the high 90's it could be a "preproduction build". IH always started their serial numbers with 501. There would always be a few test machines in the 490, 491, 499, 500 range that usually never made it to the public. With the Cub being not much of a real change they may have shipped these units. Or more likely it could have gotten a new style hood and grill to look more like the new model tractors from an owner, or from the dealer that had it set on the lot a little to long while everybody picked the newer ones. Or the hood could have gotten damaged and the only replacements available were the newer square hood. LOTS of possibilities who's to say any are right or wrong.
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Re: 63 cub

Postby joemcc » Tue Mar 26, 2013 2:08 pm

Scrivet wrote:
joemcc wrote:My 63 is a 2224** serial number, red with the squared off front end..... the numbers can be off a little right around the time they officially switch over.
I personally don't think the numbers are "off a little". If your serial numbers ends in something in the high 90's it could be a "preproduction build". IH always started their serial numbers with 501. There would always be a few test machines in the 490, 491, 499, 500 range that usually never made it to the public. With the Cub being not much of a real change they may have shipped these units. Or more likely it could have gotten a new style hood and grill to look more like the new model tractors from an owner, or from the dealer that had it set on the lot a little to long while everybody picked the newer ones. Or the hood could have gotten damaged and the only replacements available were the newer square hood. LOTS of possibilities who's to say any are right or wrong.


I think mine is 222483 or something along those lines, I assume it was made during the changeover period, just interesting I think....I'm the 3rd owner, have been told it's rare to see this style front end in a 63, but not unheard of, some I'm assuming there were a few partially assembled cubs that got the squared nose before the changeover, just like you said....
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Re: 63 cub

Postby Jim Becker » Tue Mar 26, 2013 2:53 pm

From what I've seen, the serial number based changes in the parts books have been pretty reliable. Cases that appear otherwise rarely have any documentation that dates back to the time of the event. On the other hand, mixed parts from another tractor are pretty common on 40, 50 or 60 year old tractors. I've seen a lot of Cubs with hood/tanks that came from another tractor.

In the case of a tractor built near a documented change, I would go with the odds. I would assume that it is just like the other tractor with mix-n-match parts and that it happened some time after it left the factory.
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Re: 63 cub

Postby Scrivet » Tue Mar 26, 2013 3:58 pm

Looking in the database and if my math is correct; from Jan 63 till the change over, there were 1,117 cubs made (assuming they went to 222500 as the last round nose). From the change over in mid August till the last cub made in Dec, (again I am assuming it is one less than the first of Jan 64), they would have made 951 square nose Cubs.

A link from Rudi's site, I think credit goes to Raymond Durban for keeping up with the updates
http://www.cleancomputes.com/Cub/Cub%20Production%20Information/Raymond%20Durban/F-Cub%20Database%20R3.pdf
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Re: 63 cub

Postby RaymondDurban » Tue Mar 26, 2013 8:23 pm

joemcc wrote:I think mine is 222483 or something along those lines, I assume it was made during the changeover period, just interesting I think....I'm the 3rd owner, have been told it's rare to see this style front end in a 63, but not unheard of, some I'm assuming there were a few partially assembled cubs that got the squared nose before the changeover, just like you said....

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Re: 63 cub

Postby joemcc » Tue Mar 26, 2013 9:09 pm

I stand corrected, you all certainly know your stuff...... original operators manuel has sn# 222461J written in beside the buyers name..... rubbed down the plate and they had the numbers reversed and it is sn# 222641J ..... makes more sense now, especially because the original owners said the front end was original......thanks for making me look closer, I apologize for not checking sooner :oops:
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Re: 63 cub

Postby Barnyard » Tue Mar 26, 2013 9:20 pm

joemcc wrote:...thanks for making me look closer, I apologize for not checking sooner :oops:

No apologies needed Joe, that's all part of what the forum is about. Others may have learned from this.
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Re: 63 cub

Postby Jim Becker » Tue Mar 26, 2013 9:20 pm

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