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Plow foot question

Postby dbboss » Sun Apr 07, 2013 5:09 pm

I got all of the spring feet the plows bolt onto rebuilt and freed up. 6 came with the tractor when I traded for the Cub. Some were even welded up, but those are good to go now too. Problem is I can't get a high enough angle on the 2 rear plows mounted behind the tires to open up a furrow. There isn't enough adjustment in them. Is that supposed to be a different type of foot to get a steeper adjustment on those 2 plows or do I need different plows to go on em? Ones I have now look like 12" sweeps with rounded tips for a flatter furrow bottom.
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Re: Plow foot question

Postby Boss Hog » Sun Apr 07, 2013 7:23 pm

They sound like they are worn out. replace them with 10 in sweeps They will go in the ground then I bet :D
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Re: Plow foot question

Postby clodhopper » Sun Apr 07, 2013 7:26 pm

dont wanna highjack, but where can I get a spring and top nut for a spring trip shank?
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Re: Plow foot question

Postby Boss Hog » Sun Apr 07, 2013 7:27 pm

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Re: Plow foot question

Postby Boss Hog » Sun Apr 07, 2013 7:29 pm

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Re: Plow foot question

Postby Boss Hog » Sun Apr 07, 2013 7:37 pm

clodhopper wrote:dont wanna highjack, but where can I get a spring and top nut for a spring trip shank?


IF you can still get them from Case/IH they will cost more than a good used shank
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Re: Plow foot question

Postby dbboss » Mon Apr 08, 2013 1:36 am

Thanks for the replies and the pics. They're cutting into the ground pretty good, Boss, they just don't leave a furrow. I like a furrow in between my rows even if they're shallow to control the water. Both to direct it and keep from cutting across rows and also to hold water to let it soak in later in the summer to lessen the impact of dry weather and heat we get here. If you looked at where I ran the tractor yesterday, you can't tell the difference between the center of a row and the furrow except for where the soil was undisturbed. I can use it as it is, but would prefer a different row structure than what I have is providing. I have the same setup you show in your photos, Boss, except I have a full cultivator bar across the back instead of the normal 144 rear setup. I'll see if I can find a pic of that I'm trying to describe. I've seen it done with sweeps set steeper, and I've also seen it done with full shovels on the back. I don't know what they're called, but I've also seen "wings" set up on sweeps to help build a furrow or bed also. Anyone know where to buy shovels or the "wings" (correct name appreciated ) I'm describing? Thanks.
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Re: Plow foot question

Postby dbboss » Mon Apr 08, 2013 1:41 am

Looked at your pic again, Boss, and noticed my rear clamps are different. The round shank on the foot is straight up & down on my rear setup. Looks like that is where my problem will be. I'll try to get a pic. What kind of clamp do you have on tour rear arms? Can't pull the pic in close enough to tell.
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Re: Plow foot question

Postby dbboss » Mon Apr 08, 2013 2:10 am

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Sweep angle with full adjustment on foot. Almost flat.
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If I had a way to mount mine at the same angle as on the pics Boss shows, I think I'd have plenty of adjustment back.
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Re: Plow foot question

Postby dbboss » Mon Apr 08, 2013 2:41 am

Looks like it's about a 1 5/8" toolbar. Anyone know of a clamp that would work or am I gonna have to build some?
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Re: Plow foot question

Postby Jim Becker » Mon Apr 08, 2013 9:28 am

Those are the wrong tools for what you are trying to do. Those are sweeps, designed to run flat and slice off weeds with minimum disturbance of the soil. There are other tools that bolt onto the spring trips that will do what you want. For the size furrows you want, conventional shovels will probably do the job. Below is an illustration of a front cultivator section with shovels. The same can be bolted onto your rear section. New ones are available and are relatively inexpensive. If needed, other more aggressive points can be found.

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Re: Plow foot question

Postby lombard » Mon Apr 08, 2013 10:26 am

DBBOSS----WHAT YOU NEED IS A BULLS TONGUE-----THE SAME BULLS TONGUE THAT
IS USED ON A MORMON CREASER--------

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Re: Plow foot question

Postby tmays » Mon Apr 08, 2013 10:32 am

Lombard you're gonna have to tell me what the heck a bulls tongue and a Mormon creaser are! Haha
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Re: Plow foot question

Postby dbboss » Mon Apr 08, 2013 2:49 pm

Same here. Never heard of em.
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Re: Plow foot question

Postby BIGHOSS » Mon Apr 08, 2013 3:05 pm

I guess this will show how old I am, but I have actually used a bull tongue plow (aka layoff plow) in my youth.
See attached linkhttp://www.google.com/search?q=bull ... 80&bih=607. This plow descended from the first known plow of the stone age (I think). It was first used as a turning plow until the moldboard was invented. Then, it was strickly used us lay off rows in a field that had been prepared for planting crops. It also could be used for a cultivator if a double shovel was not handy. Mainly after planting, it was used to dig taters.

Don't know for sure where the name came from.
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