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Re: Battery Box - Lesson Learned
Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 9:52 am
by danovercash
My battery box top and front have not been on the tractor in years, but I would not even think of operating a Cub without a secured battery. Even flat, level land has an occasional large bump!
Re: Battery Box - Lesson Learned
Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 9:53 am
by PVF1799
Hi Rudi - the box is built well and it is original looking. I just wish it had been 14ga. like the original. It's gonna be a lot better than holding the battery there with a piece of baling twine.
Re: Battery Box - Lesson Learned
Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 10:10 am
by CapeCodCubs
Why not return the box to OEM and ask for a refund?
Then buy an original box or the heavier gauge one. Hope you aren't losing sleep over this!
Re: Battery Box - Lesson Learned
Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 12:05 pm
by PVF1799
I'm gonna use it - not going to lose any sleep over it. The "Correct Police" will ding me on it if they mic it.
It's a nice well built box. I saved $50 - next time perhaps I'll be more flush with expendable capital.
Ken
Re: Battery Box - Lesson Learned
Posted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 10:51 am
by Bus Driver
The OEM box material probably is within the tolerance range of 16 gauge. Yes, the originals are 14 gauge. For small shops, shears and brakes for 14 gauge represent big bucks compared to those for 16 gauge. And they do form the box bottom with a die.
I have patched holes in the original boxes with 16 gauge. Prepare the hole by trimming to sound metal, cut and form patch to fit, clamp patch in place for flush on the outside, weld with MIG from the inside first, then weld outside. Grind flush outside, grind inside just enough to prevent battery scuffing. Prime outside with sandable primer. Sand and use glazing compound if necessary to get smooth surface, prime again, sand primer and then apply finish. Paint inside as desired. The patch should be undetectable from the outside.
Re: Battery Box - Lesson Learned
Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 7:29 pm
by Chet
Seems to be some good stuff on patching a battery box. I will follow your lead on "cut and patch" . Where can I go if I don't have an OEM box. One tractor I will be able to patch. Another Cub has a plastic battery box, like one that folks haul batteries to their boat when going fishing. I want to replace it. Two ideas I am thinking of: 1) buy a new box, cover, gromets, and etc..... TM Cub Parts no longer sells them.... who does? 2) build a box and cover.... has anyone reverse engineered one of these little sap suckers, and if yes, would you share the specs? Does OEM mean the battery boxes can be purchased from IH?
Chet sends
Re: Battery Box - Lesson Learned
Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 9:23 pm
by PVF1799
Hi Chet,
Abbreviation
Original equipment manufacturer (an organization that makes devices from component parts bought from other organizations).
To be clear, the box I purchased from OEM (
http://www.oemtractorparts.com/shop4/pc/home.asp is a well built box and very complete. I was just disappointed it was not has heavy as the original which was 14ga. Others have posted several years of great service from the OEM box.
Ken
Re: Battery Box - Lesson Learned
Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 10:03 pm
by Barnyard
Chet, if you want a good box here is the info you need;
Unique Design Workshop
830 South Main Street
DeGraff, OH 43318
Telephone: Norm Quay: (937) 585-6475
Go with anything less and you get what you pay for.
Re: Battery Box - Lesson Learned
Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 10:40 pm
by Boss Hog
PVF1799 wrote:Hi all - well I went for price and paid the price. I ordered by battery box from OEM, while it's made well it's only 15.5 gauge steel
. It's made well and it's the correct size, comes with all the parts - but darn it....Perhaps this newbie will pay more attention to all of your advice, next time.
Ken
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=77262&p=621945#p621945 If you will look at your post you will see that the gauge was given
Re: Battery Box - Lesson Learned
Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 5:40 am
by pickerandsinger
Hi Ken, Sorry about your Battery Box but on the positive side I just bought a General No.21 Sheet metal gauge on amazon for 12.00, thanks to the picture posted by Rob in NH....
By the way, there are a lot of dump trailers running around with 16 ga sides and floors, I'm sure you'll be fine with your purchase...However it probably won't last as long or be as tough as your Dad
Re: Battery Box - Lesson Learned
Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 6:52 am
by Scrivet
It is IMPOSSIBLE to get to ORIGINAL! Unless you have a canister of 1947 air to inflate your tires with!
I just don't understand the distress over 0.0149 of an inch and what's original or not. The gas you're using, whatever brand of oil, actually having antifreeze, paint technology, the foam in the seat padding and covering, electric wire insulation, etc. are a whole lot better than 60 years ago. Are you going to NOT use any of those? They aren't "original"!
Re: Battery Box - Lesson Learned
Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 10:55 am
by CapeCodCubs
Boss Hog wrote:PVF1799 wrote:Hi all - well I went for price and paid the price. I ordered by battery box from OEM, while it's made well it's only 15.5 gauge steel
. It's made well and it's the correct size, comes with all the parts - but darn it....Perhaps this newbie will pay more attention to all of your advice, next time.
Ken
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=77262&p=621945#p621945 If you will look at your post you will see that the gauge was given
What gauge is it Ken, 14 or 15.5?
Scrivet wrote:It is IMPOSSIBLE to get to ORIGINAL! Unless you have a canister of 1947 air to inflate your tires with!
I just don't understand the distress over 0.0149 of an inch and what's original or not. The gas you're using, whatever brand of oil, actually having antifreeze, paint technology, the foam in the seat padding and covering, electric wire insulation, etc. are a whole lot better than 60 years ago. Are you going to NOT use any of those? They aren't "original"!
Re: Battery Box - Lesson Learned
Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 11:20 am
by PVF1799
CapeCodCubs wrote:Boss Hog wrote:PVF1799 wrote:Hi all - well I went for price and paid the price. I ordered by battery box from OEM, while it's made well it's only 15.5 gauge steel
. It's made well and it's the correct size, comes with all the parts - but darn it....Perhaps this newbie will pay more attention to all of your advice, next time.
Hi - Very valid points have been made below. There have certainly been a number of passionate posts on this one. The box is 15.5ga. It's going on my tractor.
To Scrivet - You raise good points and I agree - That all being said, I want the tractor when finished to be AS CLOSE TO ORIGINAL as possible, given availability and budget. To that point - I'll repair the steering wheel, have it repaired or buy a used one in better condition from the era - rather than put one made in Chine on this tractor.
Lastly - did any of ya ever post something that you wish you hadn't?
Regards, Ken
Ken
http://www.farmallcub.com/phpBB2/viewto ... 45#p621945 If you will look at your post you will see that the gauge was given
What gauge is it Ken, 14 or 15.5?
Scrivet wrote:It is IMPOSSIBLE to get to ORIGINAL! Unless you have a canister of 1947 air to inflate your tires with!
I just don't understand the distress over 0.0149 of an inch and what's original or not. The gas you're using, whatever brand of oil, actually having antifreeze, paint technology, the foam in the seat padding and covering, electric wire insulation, etc. are a whole lot better than 60 years ago. Are you going to NOT use any of those? They aren't "original"!