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I grew up being annoyed by farm equipment dealers so I guess I'm just used to it, expect it, and don't let it get me down.
One factor in this is the type of person that will work for what dealers are willing to pay. Parts man used to pay a good wage, something a man could support a family in relative comfort on. Inflation has happened and the wage has pretty much stayed the same. $9-$10/hr jobs are a dime a dozen. It's hard to get someone to care about their job when they can easily go somewhere else tomorrow and parlay their "experience" as a parts man into more $$$.
I get annoyed (just this AM actually) when I call my JD dealer for the price of an alternator for my 1982 750 and he tells me "$509.00." $509 for an alternator?!? What the ?
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When the bosch alternator on our JD 2940 went bad, the mechanic replaced it with a Delco. Just had to use some washers behind the stock mounting bracket to make it work, and tape up one connection in the wiring harness. MUCH cheaper than the Bosch alternator.
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I find in general the first person to wait on me is not very experienced no matter if it's the CIH dealer, any auto parts store, or a place like Tractor Supply. There usually is, however, someone there that can help and glad to do it. Like Bill does, I do the leg work, not for them but for me. If left to the counter guy I would normally leave without them being able to help. I do the leg work too because I am known to be a bit scotch so if I can save 25 percent (or more) on a gasket set or a mower belt I'm inclined to do it (usually the exact same brand). I shop around for the best prices, usually on the computer. Then I order the part(s) on the phone, and since the item(s) usually need ordered in I pick them up a day or so later, sometimes the same day. Being cheerful helps, often I'll ask for their help by saying, "I could use your help." with a smile and try to make it something interesting. Bottom line, I don't get annoyed unless I feel an individual is not being helpful, either deliberately or by sheer ignorance, when I know they usually can. (I worked at auto parts places for a number of years and I know their resources) FWIW - I don't buy anything from TSC except bulk bolts and oils when on sale, I can normally get better parts for less elsewhere.
Good thread....Learned about Columbia Tractor....Will try them ....Dave
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When I lived in Illinois I used Stoller CIH in Ottawa and Herscher. They both were very good at knowing where to look for Cub parts. Since I moved to Pittsburgh, I deal with TM and they are excellent and a forum sponser.
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My CIH dealer is 35 miles away. Have been going to them for almost 17 years. They do not normally have older tractor parts. I don't work on any newer stuff. A 1967 706 is the newest IH I have worked on. If I plan on going to them I bring a part number list with me. If it is a drop in because I am in the area they look it up for me. Have never had a problem with a bad attitude from them.
Napa is 10 miles away. I get what I need from them if I have to have it right away. They had 2 real good guys there for parts but one got a different job. The other has become store manager so he is not at the counter that much. They have a woman there that was at the local JD dealer for a long time. She is very knowledgeable. There are a couple of other guys there that are learning. As for having trouble looking up parts, it comes with time on the job. I have found that the people who don't want to help won't be there very long.
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I get to feeling the same way. I love the invention of the internet. I can remember before the internet buying diaphrams for the chainsaw or a needle and seat for the dirtbike carb and you HAD to go to the dealer. they would go look at the microphish and tell you what the cost was and that was that. unless you wanted to ask for the part # walk out drive home call all around town and the neighboring parts stores and cost compare it was like the power was in their hands ( no cell phones either remember) . well guess what, now I can look up parts and info in the net. search the part # and find most things for a fraction of the cost. order it right to my front door in seconds and have a better idea of what i'm getting than the guy at the parts store. so now the only reason for me to go to a local store is to try to support my local stores. if they tick my off I just don't go there any more. they better be carefull because the internet has shifted the power into the hands of the consumer.
Agree with most everyone, do the research and be your own parts person.
See if you can talk your auto parts store out of their old counter catalogs. Couple of good parts catalogs to pick up are small engine/outdoor/power equipment and one covering engine management - illustrated guide.
Frequently you will be told a part is no longer available. Bit of research, you can find the same exact part listed under an other application.
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I really like my local mom and pop place...Teds Farm Equipment in Fairhaven. Shirley behind the counter is super knowledgeable and always leave impressed. I asked for some specific Champion plugs and she asks "for a Cub?" Me "yup". She turns around and grabs some plugs and says "you don't want them you want these...they run hotta" in her old swamp yankee new england accent. Or when we went to get some knives for a Ford Flail mower, she was cross referencing them and said "Ford didn't make anything, just put their name on equipment made by others" and then found some on a dusty shelf!
The shop is a throw back...always a cat on the counter and 2 or 3 dogs underfoot. Sometimes an orphaned calf will be penned up on the show room floor. I love it. And you can always count on a couple old farmers sitting on stools in front of the counter ready to ask you what you are planting. Her prices are fair, she never charges shipping if she needs to order something for you and never charges tax. Everyone is farm exempt. She also runs a dairy farm and will open up on Sundays if you need to get something, or leave it out by the door after hours if you can't get there in time and will say just leave a check or pay me later. How awesome is that! I think I'll stop in on Saturday for my dose of old school smarts and service! Thanks Shirley...you are the best! Will be bringing by some dog bones from the butcher and some cat food.
Ronnie knows his stuff. I am sure others do too, but he is the guy I ask for.
Sometimes we see the negatives instead of the positives. There is something to be said for olde tyme dealerships. Newer ones can be good as well. We need to stress the positive a lot more than the negative and sometimes we forget that. I try not to think about it, but I guess it is because we don't have our old CaseIH dealer anymore that makes it negative. Support your local dealers when/if you can because when they are gone, they are gone.
I enjoyed your narrative, brings back memories from when I was young and Dad would take me to Feldman Timber for a stock run and to ogle the tools... so thanks for that I haven't thought about it for way too long
What others have said makes sense. I never go to my local building supply dealer without a bill of materials for my projects ... so why should we go to our dealer without a list of what we need. So it makes sense for us to take our parts list complete with up to date part numbers with us when we go to the parts counter. We have the resources, so we may as well.
One thing I did while we had Bremners (they are gone too), when I forgot my list - I showed him the parts catalogs on the server. We were able to look up the part number, he saw what it was and then it didn't take long for him to find the part in his puter. Sometimes we need to think of things like that to help the counter people be better counter people.
Columbia Tractor and the little shops like Teds are the posiitves. For sure!
Thanks Al. Good tip. I'll try this.
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