Oil where it is not supposed to be...

Fri May 17, 2013 3:32 pm

Long time lurker, hoping someone can confirm my suspicions before I tear in to it...

The cub is actually my parents, been in the family since my grandfather bought it in '65 or so (I think it is technically a '63, but anyway). It has now decided to leak oil... in to the distributor (take the cap off, oil comes out... and not just a drop or two.. everything in there is pretty well soaked. I'm rather shocked it runs, but it does. I was suspicious when they told me where it was coming from, but I was up at their place last night, and sure enough, it is coming out of the distributor itself, not leaking down on to it from somewhere else (including outside the housing).

Looking at the parts diagram someone else has posted to this site, it appears the culprit may be an O ring on the shaft - am I on the right track, or is it one of the felt seals instead (and if so, where do I get one? I do have a TSC locally, and they have some parts, but not sure anything as specific as that seal).

Thank you all for any and all assistance!

Re: Oil where it is not supposed to be...

Fri May 17, 2013 7:45 pm

Welcome to the forum, there is a seal behind the adapter housing that holds the distributor that is pressed in to the block, its NG
Tim

Re: Oil where it is not supposed to be...

Fri May 17, 2013 8:57 pm

TST - thank you for the welcome! Forgive my ignorance, but what is "NG"?

Re: Oil where it is not supposed to be...

Fri May 17, 2013 9:01 pm

No Good

Re: Oil where it is not supposed to be...

Sat May 18, 2013 3:02 am

I also have the dreaded oil in the distributor on my 53. I replaced that seal 2 years ago and now wondering if I put it in backwards. I know it has to be positioned a certain way, and I measured and that part is correct. I don't get a lot oil out of there and it does not affect how mine runs at all, it just bothers me to have any leaks of any kind.

Re: Oil where it is not supposed to be...

Sat May 18, 2013 5:26 am

Welcome to the forum...I live in Red Creek now (near Oswego)....But born and grew up in Corinth/Lake Luzerne area...Worked as a lineman for NiMo...You'll find some great help and advice on the forum...Sounds like a nice family tractor...Take care.... Dave

Re: Oil where it is not supposed to be...

Sat May 18, 2013 7:32 am

Thank you all very much for your very warm welcome and assistance. For those of you from nearby, or who have lived nearby, you know what time of year this is - black fly season! So I'll either be trying to use their garage, or perhaps trailer it down to my house (I prefer my tools...).

We have the original Owners Manual and one other, is there a shop manual, or something similar that shows the breakdown of that area, and if so where might one purchase it? This doesn't sound too bad, but with good upkeep this will likely be my tractor in the future so I'm sure I'll need it at some point.

Re: Oil where it is not supposed to be...

Sat May 18, 2013 7:51 am

couchsachraga wrote:
We have the original Owners Manual and one other, is there a shop manual, or something similar that shows the breakdown of that area, and if so where might one purchase it? This doesn't sound too bad, but with good upkeep this will likely be my tractor in the so I'mfuture sure I'll need it at some point.



Welcome to the forum.

Go to the top of page and click on new manuals. You should find anything you need.

Re: Oil where it is not supposed to be...

Sat May 18, 2013 9:38 am

Check out this link, page 32, paragraph 20:
http://www.cleancomputes.com/Cub/Blue%2 ... Engine.htm
You'll have to also pull the governor to remove and reinstall the seal, then retime the governor upon reinstallation.

Re: Oil where it is not supposed to be...

Sat May 18, 2013 10:09 pm

There are a couple of methods of removing the seal, that may work, without removing the governor.

First is to use a tool to hook under the lip and the back side of the seal and pull it out. Another method is to drive a sheet metal screw into the seal and pull it out.

Re: Oil where it is not supposed to be...

Sun May 19, 2013 12:47 am

Welcome to the Forum.

I too am a native of your area. Was born in Glens Falls and grew up out in Adamsville. Mothers side of the family are Wilson's. Dad's side is from Granville. I now live in TN.

Next time I am up there to visit my brother in Argyle, perhaps we can get together and take a good look at the cub for you.

Re: Oil where it is not supposed to be...

Sun May 19, 2013 5:14 am

couchsachraga wrote:We have the original Owners Manual and one other, is there a shop manual, or something similar that shows the breakdown of that area, and if so where might one purchase it? This doesn't sound too bad, but with good upkeep this will likely be my tractor in the future so I'm sure I'll need it at some point.


Here is a link to my complete shop manual (Blue Ribbon Service Manual GSS 1411) in pdf format. http://www.farmallcub.com/fcman/download.php?fname=./files/Service%20Manuals/Blue%20Ribbon%20Service%20Manuals/GSS-1411%20W-Rev%201%20Cub%20*%20Lo-Boy%202-76%20OCR.pdf

There are three essential manuals for these tractors. The Owner's Manual you cited, Service Manual, and the parts book (TC-37) which you can find above as well in a number of different revisions.

Re: Oil where it is not supposed to be...

Sun May 19, 2013 11:54 am

In the parts manual that seal is called"Magneto drive seal". It can be removed without removing the governor, but be careful in doing so that you do not scratch the shaft. I have removed them with the little slide hammer type dent puller with a sheet metal screw in the end. You usually have to screw it in 3 places around the seal and keep rotating between them moving it a little at a time at each place.

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Re: Oil where it is not supposed to be...

Sun May 19, 2013 4:46 pm

Getting that seal out with the governor installed is easy, reinstalling it to the proper depth with the governor installed is not.

Re: Oil where it is not supposed to be...

Sun May 19, 2013 6:17 pm

As a long time lurker you are probably familiar with the Welcome Wagon, but here it is anyways:

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There are threads on Governor Seal installation that can show you how to make or acquire a Governor Seal Insertion tool.