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Converting leveling lever to crank
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Converting leveling lever to crank
My 1956 Cub w/fast hitch is missing the leveling lever. I plan to convert it the crank style adjustment and wonder which parts I need to do this. It looks like I need to change the bail (to the correct bail for the crank style adjuster) and then I can bolt on the crank adjuster. Are all the other fast hitch parts the same or would I need other parts?
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Re: Converting leveling lever to crank
First question I would ask is how much plowing do you do?
Using the crank handle to adjust the depth of the plow is really slow compared to the lever style.
Several forum members have experienced the same broken depth lever problem, including me. It's all to convenient to hoist yourself up on the tractor using the lever - not what it was designed for.
I bought a master control lever off ebay back in 2006 and had Rick Prentice make up a new depth lever using the cast handle and the bottom pivot. He even fashioned a new "button".
You are correct - the bail is different. From Rudi's Manual Server you can look at the Parts Manuals. Here is the link to the Group 09 - Frame section from the TC-37F Revision 3, dated March 1975.
http://www.cleancomputes.com/Cub/Cub%20Parts%20Manuals/TC-37F%20Revision%203/Group%2009%20-%20Frame/index.html
Peter
Using the crank handle to adjust the depth of the plow is really slow compared to the lever style.
Several forum members have experienced the same broken depth lever problem, including me. It's all to convenient to hoist yourself up on the tractor using the lever - not what it was designed for.
I bought a master control lever off ebay back in 2006 and had Rick Prentice make up a new depth lever using the cast handle and the bottom pivot. He even fashioned a new "button".
You are correct - the bail is different. From Rudi's Manual Server you can look at the Parts Manuals. Here is the link to the Group 09 - Frame section from the TC-37F Revision 3, dated March 1975.
http://www.cleancomputes.com/Cub/Cub%20Parts%20Manuals/TC-37F%20Revision%203/Group%2009%20-%20Frame/index.html
Peter
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Re: Converting leveling lever to crank
I'm a big fan of the lever version. Adjustment is fast, accurate, and positive. While the crank version is more adjustable, the increased adjustment is of very limited practical application, in my experience.
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Re: Converting leveling lever to crank
I do have a fast hitch plow for the Cub, but I plow my garden with a 3 bottom on a 460D. The big tractor is a little awkward when it comes to getting close to posts etc.. I would like to use the plow on the Cub for tight spots where the bigger tractor will not go. I would restore the lever if I could find a suitable replacement handle and quadrant. The pivot mechanism is still on the tractor. The handle was apparently snapped off and then the quadrant was removed. I have found a bail and hand crank mechanism and thought this would solve the problem. I really need to be able to control the height of the front of the bail to use my fast hitch planter. I have a John Deere No 71 planter modified with a single fast hitch point for the Cub. I am also thinking about building a one row cultivator on a fast hitch tool bar for the Cub.
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Re: Converting leveling lever to crank
The uses you describe are ideal for the lever version.
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Re: Converting leveling lever to crank
No need to change the bail. Here's what I did:
I fabricated my own crank-style depth control using a length of 1" Acme screw, some 1" black steel pipe, a 1" bolt, and a few pieces of scrap steel flat bar...
I fabricated my own crank-style depth control using a length of 1" Acme screw, some 1" black steel pipe, a 1" bolt, and a few pieces of scrap steel flat bar...
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Re: Converting leveling lever to crank
Hi Matt,
I have wondered about your conversion since seeing it here. Extending the arm on the lever type bail like you have done is an option I am thinking about vs. replacing the bail. I have found an adjuster assembly and also a matching bail, but have not bought them yet. Several people here make a strong argument for the lever. It seems that if someone reproduced the crank and/or the lever adjuster, that they would have a good market for them.
I have wondered about your conversion since seeing it here. Extending the arm on the lever type bail like you have done is an option I am thinking about vs. replacing the bail. I have found an adjuster assembly and also a matching bail, but have not bought them yet. Several people here make a strong argument for the lever. It seems that if someone reproduced the crank and/or the lever adjuster, that they would have a good market for them.
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Re: Converting leveling lever to crank
Xperimental wrote:Hi Matt,
It seems that if someone reproduced the crank and/or the lever adjuster, that they would have a good market for them.
No kidding!! It seems that the convenient location of the depth handle as a grab bar to get up on the tractor is just too tempting! I have seen several broken like yours. Replacement is a "spendy" proposition, too.
I only wish that I had fabrication and welding skills. I can do neither!
Mike
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