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Starting Lever

Postby PVF1799 » Wed Jul 03, 2013 8:54 pm

TM has a long starting lever that is discontinued, the have a short starting lever that is for Serial # 128799 and up. The lever on my Cub is not like either one. I don't recall our 48 having a lever as long as the one that is discontinued at TM tractor. Steiner does not have them either.

I can make one if I had a template - Can someone send a photo of what it's really supposed to look like on a '48
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Re: Starting Lever

Postby Boss Hog » Wed Jul 03, 2013 9:05 pm

I think I have a new old stock one
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Re: Starting Lever

Postby Rudi » Wed Jul 03, 2013 9:09 pm

Ken:

Will this help :?:

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Re: Starting Lever

Postby BIGHOSS » Wed Jul 03, 2013 10:05 pm

That is a great sketch from Rudi. The problem with the original is the material needs to be thicker to add some "beef" to keep it from bending. I made one from some scrap material that I had on hand, which is around 12 gauge. Also, the tab that contacts the starter button was make extra long. Then I started grinding the tab to shorten it so when pulling the starter rod there is very little loose play before the starter engages. You might say that the lever is custom fitted for my starter.
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Re: Starting Lever

Postby PVF1799 » Thu Jul 04, 2013 7:19 am

Rudi wrote:Ken:

Will this help :?:

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Cub Long Starter Lever

Rudi, this is perfect - If I can't make it from this blue print, well then I better just throw in the towel.
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Re: Starting Lever

Postby Rudi » Thu Jul 04, 2013 8:58 am

Rudy is very good at CADD .. something I cannot do. His drawings are really useful. I am envious of anyone who can use that type of program - it has always been beyond me although I am still trying.
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Re: Starting Lever

Postby Steve K. CALIF » Thu Jul 04, 2013 9:22 am

Rudi, thanks for the nice drawing on the starting lever.
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Re: Starting Lever

Postby PVF1799 » Thu Jul 04, 2013 10:29 am

PVF1799 wrote:
Rudi wrote:Ken:

Will this help :?:

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Cub Long Starter Lever

Rudi, this is perfect - If I can't make it from this blue print, well then I better just throw in the towel.


Dad, say's he recalls this being a tad bit under designed. I may make it from 3/16" thick stock.
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Re: Starting Lever

Postby Rudi » Thu Jul 04, 2013 11:10 am

Ken:

Post a pic after and let us know how the 3/16" works.
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Re: Starting Lever

Postby Eugene » Thu Jul 04, 2013 12:07 pm

Rather then spending the money and effort to make a long starting lever, why not contact the commercial advertisers or post on the classified ad section of this site. Someone will have an experience lever for sale.
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Re: Starting Lever

Postby PVF1799 » Fri Jul 05, 2013 12:06 pm

Eugene wrote:Rather then spending the money and effort to make a long starting lever, why not contact the commercial advertisers or post on the classified ad section of this site. Someone will have an experience lever for sale.


Eugene, part of this effort is to challenge myself to do for myself as a learning exercise. I could purchase everything I need from someone here and I have reached out to many members for used parts. This part in particular was under engineered by Farmall and was changed in ~1954. My making one myself, I have the opportunity to manufacture one slightly thicker (1/16") while providing the same appearance as the original. It's an easy part to make and I can say when finished - I made that part. Lastly, the cost of the material is insignificant and probably lesser expensive than buying one online here.

This all being said, I truly appreciate your feedback and input - thanks so much, Ken
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Re: Starting Lever

Postby BIGHOSS » Fri Jul 05, 2013 2:52 pm

Pretty easy job even for me. A steel band saw would be nice, but all I have is a right angle cutoff wheel, drill press, sanding disc and hand file. As I said in the early post, I made the tab that contacts the starter extra long. Then I started grinding it off to end up with a little preload on it. Just a short pull of the rod engages the starter.
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Re: Starting Lever

Postby Jim Becker » Fri Jul 05, 2013 4:10 pm

PVF1799 wrote:This part in particular was under engineered by Farmall and was changed in ~1954.

1951. Since the switch itself changed at the same time and the later style lever has a GM part number, I always assumed the change was mostly so the starter could be purchased from Delco, complete with the switch and lever.
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Re: Starting Lever

Postby PVF1799 » Fri Jul 05, 2013 4:23 pm

Jim Becker wrote:
PVF1799 wrote:This part in particular was under engineered by Farmall and was changed in ~1954.

1951. Since the switch itself changed at the same time and the later style lever has a GM part number, I always assumed the change was mostly so the starter could be purchased from Delco, complete with the switch and lever.


Thanks Jim, I love the stuff I learn from this forum....
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