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Woods 59 stabilizing
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Re: Woods 59 stabilizing
Mike, how about running chains from the TC bracket to the top holes of the skids on either side? You could easily do that to see if it eliminated the problem before buying caster wheels and doing some welding.
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Re: Woods 59 stabilizing
Chains won't help, the mower deck is always trying to "level" itself. It's suspended from a single point, and always trying to stay level. The only way to fix this is to install gauge wheels/casters where the skid shoes are, or lower the skid shoes so that they are about 1/2" higher than your cutting height. That way the skid shoes will touch and hold the deck off the ground.
My grandfather had a huge hill that we mowed with Cubs, and Lo Boys, and always had the same problem. Fortunately, we were a Woods dealer, so I just grabbed a set of casters and installed them at the outer edge of the deck.
Later in life, after IH went away, we all went to mowing with Simplicity equipment because all of their mower decks actually ride on the ground, with a roller running the full width of the mower deck, on the back of the deck. Even my 60" mower has a full width roller on the back of it. You can't beat the cut of a Simplicity mower deck, and they can not scalp or mow uneven.
Hmm. Maybe I should start fabricating rollers for installation on Woods decks. Sure would make them mow nice!!
My grandfather had a huge hill that we mowed with Cubs, and Lo Boys, and always had the same problem. Fortunately, we were a Woods dealer, so I just grabbed a set of casters and installed them at the outer edge of the deck.
Later in life, after IH went away, we all went to mowing with Simplicity equipment because all of their mower decks actually ride on the ground, with a roller running the full width of the mower deck, on the back of the deck. Even my 60" mower has a full width roller on the back of it. You can't beat the cut of a Simplicity mower deck, and they can not scalp or mow uneven.
Hmm. Maybe I should start fabricating rollers for installation on Woods decks. Sure would make them mow nice!!
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Re: Woods 59 stabilizing
Got that right! I used to have a little Simplicity Broadmoore with 38" deck. The deck connects very close to the front axle and followed the axle to whatever undulation it rolled over. That and the rear rollers you mentioned it literally sculpted the lawn, the best looking cut my yard ever had.gitractorman wrote: You can't beat the cut of a Simplicity mower deck, and they can not scalp or mow uneven.
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Re: Woods 59 stabilizing
I have never seen a woods 59 without the wheels at the front , but I have not seen that many
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Re: Woods 59 stabilizing
Lucky for me, Merlin's Woods 59 will soon be wearing a set of front wheels! There is a micro-fest brewing in Northwest Ohio soon!
Thanks all for the help on this!
Mike
Thanks all for the help on this!
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Re: Woods 59 stabilizing
Just take extreme care in the placement of the wheels. It is very easy to position them in a place where they can contact the front wheels of the tractor.
It can become an issue while backing up and turning or backing down an uneven slope and the axel is pivoting on the center pin. (One front tire is lower than the other front tire relative to the back wheels)
It can become an issue while backing up and turning or backing down an uneven slope and the axel is pivoting on the center pin. (One front tire is lower than the other front tire relative to the back wheels)
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Re: Woods 59 stabilizing
Hengy wrote:Lucky for me, Merlin's Woods 59 will soon be wearing a set of front wheels! There is a micro-fest brewing in Northwest Ohio soon!
Thanks all for the help on this!
Mike
Mike,
Try northeast Ohio.
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Re: Woods 59 stabilizing
Doh! Sorry, you are correct as usual, King Friday. (remember Mister Rogers' Neighborhood?)
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Re: Woods 59 stabilizing
Bill Hudson wrote:Hengy wrote:Lucky for me, Merlin's Woods 59 will soon be wearing a set of front wheels! There is a micro-fest brewing in Northwest Ohio soon!
Thanks all for the help on this!
Mike
Mike,
Try northeast Ohio.
Bill
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Re: Woods 59 stabilizing
My deck doesn't have casters. I have the same problem, but live with it. Take a couple of asprin and be sitting down when you price those casters.
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Re: Woods 59 stabilizing
TomE wrote:be sitting down when you price those casters
No joke there! That's why I made some for my tag-along deck. I only had to buy new wheels which I got from AgriSupply for a Caroni deck. They're nice heavy duty wheels at a reasonable price.
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Re: Woods 59 stabilizing
I have mowed with a Cub and Woods 59 mower for years and have not had the problem you mention. I can send you a picture of my set up if you send me your e-mail. I have trouble posting pictures on this site.
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Re: Woods 59 stabilizing
Had a great micro fest at Bill Hudson's cub house last night. Came home with way more than I originally intended to bring home, but had a great time and great fellowship with Bill, Smokeycub and (I'm really sorry, but I have forgotten the other handle!). Had a great supper and some excellent "jaw-jacking" with the guys.
Merlin's deck will be just awesome shortly once I mount the new set of guide wheels on it!
Thanks for a great time last night. I love these micro fests!!
Merlin's deck will be just awesome shortly once I mount the new set of guide wheels on it!
Thanks for a great time last night. I love these micro fests!!
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Re: Woods 59 stabilizing
Hengy wrote:The linkage to the rear brackets do seem a little wallowed out . . .
I'm coming late to this party, but I suspect the above to be a bigger piece of the problem than it has been credited with.
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Re: Woods 59 stabilizing
The wheels did a great job of smoothing it out. I do agree that the wallowing needs to be addressed. Wonder if I could drill it out and then fit it with some bushings to tighten it back up...
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