mid 70's Cub Un-Breakable, unbelievable

Farmall Cub Forum -- Questions and answers to all of your Cub related issues.

Moderator: Team Cub

Forum rules
Notice: For sale and wanted posts are not allowed in this forum. Please use our free classifieds or one of our site sponsors for your tractor and parts needs.
User avatar
Groove Critter
5+ Years
5+ Years
Cub Star!!
Cub Star!!
Posts: 256
Joined: Fri Sep 10, 2010 6:02 pm
Zip Code: 44045
Tractors Owned: 1948 cub (Sophie)
1949 cub Loren
1954 cub Nussie
Location: OH, Grand River (east of Cleveland)

mid 70's Cub Un-Breakable, unbelievable

Postby Groove Critter » Sun Oct 06, 2013 7:47 pm

We met some real nice folks stopping to look at a cub today. I know I still have a lot to learn about these tractors even after all the work my tractors have undergone -but I want to know if anyone here could tell me how long a well maintained throwout bearing can possibly last?

I don't mean to call this guy out on this but I refuse to believe that a mid 70's cub can go without a new clutch or throw out bearing for all those years :shock: ; used to bottom plow a small plot and to mow w/ woods 59. Maybe he just wasn't recalling some of the maintenance?

Short of a broken radiator (w/ no broken bolts during change-out) in the past, this thing is rusty and has had no problems at all he says. Not even a head gasket or carb rebuild before :shock: -now I must be getting your reading attention ahe? We did not see any large pinkish animals flying with wings while we were there either :beer: .

Cub Veteran input is much appreciated please? Life of a well maintained clutch & throw-out bearing?
Dave
The glass is half full
the upper portion is wasted material
the content is delicious, cold and refreshing!

walt thomason
5+ Years
5+ Years
Cub Star
Cub Star
Posts: 175
Joined: Sat Aug 23, 2008 10:25 am
Zip Code: 38571
eBay ID: Dullayman
Tractors Owned: 1948f cub 1952 f cub
Location: Crossville Tenn 38571

Re: mid 70's Cub Un-Breakable, unbelievable

Postby walt thomason » Sun Oct 06, 2013 8:00 pm

My 1948 cub just got it's throw out bearing replace 2 years ago for what it is worth

tst
5+ Years
5+ Years
501 Club
501 Club
Posts: 2239
Joined: Tue Jan 12, 2010 2:08 pm
Zip Code: 12514
Circle of Safety: Y

Re: mid 70's Cub Un-Breakable, unbelievable

Postby tst » Sun Oct 06, 2013 8:13 pm

replaced the clutch in my 50 cub in 69, still being used today
Tim

Eugene
Team Cub Mentor
Team Cub Mentor
501 Club
501 Club
Posts: 15050
Joined: Fri Jul 02, 2004 9:52 pm
Zip Code: 65051
Circle of Safety: Y
Location: Mo. Linn

Re: mid 70's Cub Un-Breakable, unbelievable

Postby Eugene » Sun Oct 06, 2013 8:32 pm

Guy's claim is quite possible. Tractor age is not a factor, maintenance and type of usage is.
I have an excuse. CRS.

John B.
5+ Years
5+ Years
Cub Star
Cub Star
Posts: 114
Joined: Mon Oct 22, 2007 3:07 pm
Zip Code: 08527
Location: NJ,Jackson

Re: mid 70's Cub Un-Breakable, unbelievable

Postby John B. » Sun Oct 06, 2013 9:26 pm

Critter,
My 1966 still has the orignal clutch and throw-out bearing plus about everything else except carb. Only thing wrong w/ orignal
carb is warped top section. :D :D
John
1966 Cub
54a Blade
Pennington Mower

outdoors4evr
5+ Years
5+ Years
501 Club
501 Club
Posts: 987
Joined: Tue Jul 22, 2008 12:44 pm
Zip Code: 48423
Tractors Owned: 184
Location: Davison, MI

Re: mid 70's Cub Un-Breakable, unbelievable

Postby outdoors4evr » Mon Oct 07, 2013 7:58 am

Use is a factor, not age. Without a functioning hour meter, there is no way to tell how 'worn out' a tractor is without removing the head.
Throwout bearings and clutches wear most during the transitions between clutch engaged and clutch disengaged. A tractor, even with a lot of hours on it may not have performed a lot of clutch cycles depending on how it was used. Some tasks require a lot more clutch action than others.
(example, running a saw versus pushing snow)

Mythbusters - Plausible
184 w/ Creeper & 3-Point
IH 3160a Mower
IH Model 15 Tiller

User avatar
Mike in Louisiana
10+ Years
10+ Years
501 Club
501 Club
Posts: 5520
Joined: Tue Feb 15, 2005 10:10 am
Zip Code: 71023
Circle of Safety: Y
Location: LA, Doyline

Re: mid 70's Cub Un-Breakable, unbelievable

Postby Mike in Louisiana » Mon Oct 07, 2013 8:29 am

my 75 cub is still all original.
1975 cub (LouAnn) serial # 245946, 1941 John Deere Model H

Good judgment comes from experience,
and a lot of that comes from bad judgment. Will Rogers

User avatar
John *.?-!.* cub owner
Team Cub Guide
Team Cub Guide
501 Club
501 Club
Posts: 21530
Joined: Sun Feb 02, 2003 2:09 pm
Zip Code: 63664
Tractors Owned: 47, 48, 49 cub plus Wagner loader & other attachments. 41 Farmall H.
Location: Mo, Potosi

Re: mid 70's Cub Un-Breakable, unbelievable

Postby John *.?-!.* cub owner » Mon Oct 07, 2013 9:50 am

My 48, which has gotten pretty heavy use since I got it received it's first throwout bearing and pressure plate in approx. 1998 or so. My 49, which was used almost exclusively to mow with a Woods 42 got it's first throwout about 5 years ago, and still has original clutch. Engine has been bored one time. The 49 has had the carb replaced, and the mag changed to a distributor due to a mechanic (working for previous owner) that claimed to do an overhaul (just ringed it when it needed rebored),and did not know how to time the governor gear.due
If you are not part of the solution,
you are part of the problem!!!

bythepond88
10+ Years
10+ Years
501 Club
501 Club
Posts: 1421
Joined: Sun Apr 30, 2006 2:54 pm
Zip Code: 60073
Circle of Safety: Y
Location: IL, Round Lake Heights

Re: mid 70's Cub Un-Breakable, unbelievable

Postby bythepond88 » Mon Oct 07, 2013 11:50 am

My 59 is still on her original TOB. I replaced the clutch disk when I overhauled the engine, cause it wasn't that expensive (unlike the TOB). When I checked the original disk against the replacement, it wasn't more than half worn, so it's on the shelf in case the current one self-destructs.
Michael Cummings
Eddie - a 1959 International Lo-Boy named after my father in law, who who bought her new.

User avatar
gitractorman
10+ Years
10+ Years
501 Club
501 Club
Posts: 2429
Joined: Mon Oct 24, 2005 11:35 am
Zip Code: 14072
eBay ID: toysforjake
Tractors Owned: Lots of Cub Cadets!
1951 Farmall Cub
1977 IH Cub
1966 IH Cub
1965 IH Lo Boy
1949 Farmall Cub
Several IH 154 Lo Boys
1979 IH 184 Lo Boy
Simplicity 4416 Sovereign
Simplicity Conquest
Simplicity Legacy 4x4 Diesel
Circle of Safety: Y
Location: Grand Island, NY

Re: mid 70's Cub Un-Breakable, unbelievable

Postby gitractorman » Mon Oct 07, 2013 12:19 pm

Yep, both my 77 and 51 Cubs had the original TOBs. Tractors had never been split. I would guess that both are still going strong. The 77 was used by a church to plow snow in southern Ohio, so it saw relatively little use. The 51 was used on a farm here in WNY, but he only had a snow blade for it, so again, it saw little use. Running a mower deck is probably the biggest reason for wearing out a TOB, just from all the stopping, backing, turning, etc. Also, when folks mow lawns, they tend to leave their foot on the clutch, especially in lawns with lots of trees. This really tears up a TOB.
Cub Cadets 682, 1811, 1864, Simplicity Legacy XL 4x4 Diesel with FEL, 60" mower, 50" Tiller

User avatar
pickerandsinger
501 Club
501 Club
Posts: 1182
Joined: Thu Oct 18, 2012 3:23 pm
Zip Code: 13143
Tractors Owned: 1957 Cub Low Boy w/ Danco c3 (Cubby)
1953 Cub w/ sprayer and 54A blade (Chompers)
1954 Cub w/fast hitch (Ira)
1948 Cub ( Papa Paul)
Mutt mix Cub (BattleAxe)
1950 Farmall Cub (basket case demo)
1950 Ferguson TO20 w/ loader (John Henry)
1951 Ferguson TEA 20 (parts)( Uncle Rusty)
F/H Disc Harrow for cub L-38
C-22 Sickle Bar Mower
IH C2 and C3 mower
Universal tool attachment with disc hillers..Rear cultivators (various tips)
Henderson Loader
York Rake for Cub home made
Single bottom Plow for Cub F194
Gravely 5660 12 hp/ w snoblower.rototiller,bush hog
Circle of Safety: Y

Re: mid 70's Cub Un-Breakable, unbelievable

Postby pickerandsinger » Tue Oct 08, 2013 5:02 am

My 57 lo boy according to the PO has the original clutch in it......
In Memory of 58,286

User avatar
Buzzard Wing
Cub Pro
Cub Pro
501 Club
501 Club
Posts: 10455
Joined: Mon Aug 09, 2004 10:14 pm
Zip Code: 02840
Location: RI, Newport

Re: mid 70's Cub Un-Breakable, unbelievable

Postby Buzzard Wing » Tue Oct 08, 2013 5:42 am

Watch how people drive.... you can see why some are always replacing brakes and others rarely do. Same with a TOB and Clutch, as GI says many people ride a clutch and that is hard on it. So is starting with the clutch pedal down.

With my Lo Boy there is a lot of clutch use (=wear) mowing tight quarters and plowing a short driveway.
1971 Cub (Rufus) 1950 Cub (Cathy) 1965 Lo Boy Fast Hitch (Nameless III) 1970 Cub 1000 Loader & Fast Hitch (Lee)

User avatar
PVF1799
501 Club
501 Club
Posts: 1427
Joined: Fri Mar 15, 2013 9:46 pm
Zip Code: 12009
eBay ID: kepara
Skype Name: ken.rau.57
Tractors Owned: 1929 Farmall Regular (Original Owner)
1942 Farmall M #55654
1948 Farmall Cub #21005
1955 Farmall Cub #190769
1961 Cub Cadet #16509
1975 Cub Cadet 1250H
197x IH 990 Haybine
1994 JD 5320 Diesel
Attachments: Woods 42F Fast Hitch, L38 Disc Fast Hitch, F11 Plow Fast Hitch, Land Plow, Snow Plow, Grader Blade, Planter w/Fertilizer, Cultivators, Hilling Disks, Sickle Bar Mower(2), IH 7' Sickle Bar Mower, Flail Mower and 5' International Belly Mower.
Circle of Safety: Y
Location: Altamont, NY

Re: mid 70's Cub Un-Breakable, unbelievable

Postby PVF1799 » Tue Oct 08, 2013 9:22 am

Rex '48 got a new clutch and throwout bearing in the early 1980's. Pretty good service life I'd say.
Ken
Pleasant View Farm - Est. 1799
My Restoration Project - FCUB '48 - Rex

outdoors4evr
5+ Years
5+ Years
501 Club
501 Club
Posts: 987
Joined: Tue Jul 22, 2008 12:44 pm
Zip Code: 48423
Tractors Owned: 184
Location: Davison, MI

Re: mid 70's Cub Un-Breakable, unbelievable

Postby outdoors4evr » Tue Oct 08, 2013 1:41 pm

PVF1799 wrote:Pretty good service life I'd say.

Agreed! Getting 30+ years out of a tractor part when the whole tractor was designed for something like a 10 year lifespan.
American old iron of course - overdesigned and still enjoying it! :{_}:
184 w/ Creeper & 3-Point
IH 3160a Mower
IH Model 15 Tiller

User avatar
Lt.Mike
5+ Years
5+ Years
501 Club
501 Club
Posts: 766
Joined: Sun Feb 17, 2008 2:38 am
Zip Code: 07727
Tractors Owned: '58 International Cub Lo-Boy
2 - '46 International A's
Location: Farmingdale NJ

Re: mid 70's Cub Un-Breakable, unbelievable

Postby Lt.Mike » Tue Oct 08, 2013 3:57 pm

As the saying goes, they made things better back then. Really! :wink:
I don't think "planned obsolescence" was in anyones vocabulary in those days.
Quote by Gary Pickeral I like
"If it can cast a shadow, it can be restored"


Return to “Farmall Cub”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: tjs and 6 guests