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Re: New owner 1948 orchard cub

Postby DickB » Wed Dec 25, 2013 10:29 am

I was wondering about that narrow width Cub in (per your zip code) California's steep hill orchards, and the serious risk of rolling it over. The Cub, like other Farmalls, has a fairly high center of gravity. Looks like a tractor for the flat land to me. There a $40,000 Ferrari (no joke) tractor that seemed like it was designed for steep slopes (low slung body, wide wheel setup), but I think I saw even one of those (blue) turn over in the recent thread on tractor accidents. I'd guess that really narrow setup must have been for narrow fruit aisles on flat land, and I'd keep it there. Maybe, given the under slung cultivator setup, it was for crop work where the row width set the wheel width? Also, wouldn't someone have outfitted the rear wheels with fenders to shoo off vines, branches if it was for orchard work?

No matter, it's nice that you'll be restoring it.

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Re: New owner 1948 orchard cub

Postby JimT » Wed Dec 25, 2013 10:53 am

Lowrollerjr wrote:I think I scored for $500.00


I would gladly pay you $501.00 for the cub. :big devil:

Great find. That is one to keep for a long time.
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Re: New owner 1948 orchard cub

Postby Jackman » Wed Dec 25, 2013 12:11 pm

Nice Cub :!: were your friends orchard or vineyard folk :?: would cultivators or a rear plow be needed on an orchard or vineyard tractor :?:

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Re: New owner 1948 orchard cub

Postby Lowrollerjr » Wed Dec 25, 2013 7:47 pm

This was used on a very flat piece of property that included citrus and avocados .. This cub is so narrow that it would not require orchard fenders as it could easily fit between these rows. There are two implements still on the property. They are both 3 point hitch. They are asking one dollars each. I still have to get out there and check them out. I may at some point flip the rear wheels around at some point just for stability .. But then again it is way cool in that narrow setup.

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Re: New owner 1948 orchard cub

Postby Lowrollerjr » Wed Dec 25, 2013 7:56 pm

Oh.. And thanks for the 501.00 offer . I will give it some thought.. Lol. I don't plan on driving it on anything but a level surface if I can help it. So give me some opinions on this. I was planning to do a 12 volt conversion but being that it is somewhat rare should I keep it 6 volt?
Also would anyone have a ballpark figure on what it's worth ?Both in this condition and restored?

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Re: New owner 1948 orchard cub

Postby Lowrollerjr » Wed Dec 25, 2013 8:15 pm

Oh yea.. So I'm trying to use the proper term here.. I have heard orchard cub and vineyard cub.. Could somebody PLEASE tell me what to call it.. Lol
Thanks... Greg

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Re: New owner 1948 orchard cub

Postby Barnyard » Wed Dec 25, 2013 8:25 pm

Lowrollerjr wrote:Oh yea.. So I'm trying to use the proper term here.. I have heard orchard cub and vineyard cub.. Could somebody PLEASE tell me what to call it.. Lol
Thanks... Greg

Since grape vines are closer together in vineyards than trees are in orchards, I would suspect Vineyard Cub would be the more correct term.
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Re: New owner 1948 orchard cub

Postby Bob McCarty » Wed Dec 25, 2013 8:30 pm

Orchard tractors traditionally have the sweeping fenders and other sheet metal modifications to keep the tractor from catching branches. I agree with Barnyard about the vineyard Cub being the correct terminology.

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Re: New owner 1948 orchard cub

Postby Lowrollerjr » Thu Dec 26, 2013 12:07 am

Ok thanks ... From now on I will refer to it as a vineyard cub in future posts ... How about the 12 volt conversion.. Any thoughts ?

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Re: New owner 1948 orchard cub

Postby Jim Becker » Thu Dec 26, 2013 12:10 am

Since it was used in citrus and avocados (from new ??), it might be properly called a Grove Cub.

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Re: New owner 1948 orchard cub

Postby Lowrollerjr » Thu Dec 26, 2013 12:15 am

Thereis another idea :)

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Re: New owner 1948 orchard cub

Postby DickB » Thu Dec 26, 2013 12:10 pm

New England where we live, doesn't have any citrus or avocado groves, and only a few vineyards which, not incidentally, are in a bit of a surge. New hybrid grapes are thriving here. I've got a micro-vineyard of wine grapes that are closing in on their 4 or 5th years. Our aisles are about 8' to 9' wide, so regular wheel widths on tractors are okay. But, I'm wondering what that grove tractor did in the citrus and avocado trees? And, especially what it did with the cultivators and other implements. Some vineyardists spray all sorts of things, fertilize, unroll netting, cut aisle weeds down, even figure out how to cultivate under trellises. I've rigged up a way of cultivating with the Cub under trellises that will be tested, cheered or cried over come this summer.

I'd suspect that you will return to the grove for those $1 implements, and perhaps you might ask what, specifically, that tractor did. I'm personally a bit wondering about my aisles of weeds/grass. I cut them but think of some sort of edible or vine-enhancing companion crop under the tractor. Curious what a California grove would do other than cultivate the soil for water absorption and weed control.

On voltage, my 1955 Cub is 6v. While I'm challenged with start-ups in frigid temperatures and I've made accommodations for it, I'll keep it at 6v. Don't know why you'd change to 12v. in Calif., if your electrical system works. There are suppliers of 6v. parts for nearly all if not all that you'll need (correct me if I'm wrong) as your Cub continues on down the years. The changeover will cost you, and the guys here who have done it know about the $$ part of it. You'll get guidance.

Don't forget to clean up that grove of those $1 implements.

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Re: New owner 1948 orchard cub

Postby Lowrollerjr » Thu Dec 26, 2013 12:38 pm

That was a typo..the price of the implements is 100.00 each.

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Re: New owner 1948 orchard cub

Postby Barnyard » Thu Dec 26, 2013 1:05 pm

Lowrollerjr wrote:That was a typo..the price of the implements is 100.00 each.

Keep in mind, three point equipment will not work on a Cub.
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Re: New owner 1948 orchard cub

Postby Lowrollerjr » Fri Dec 27, 2013 11:34 am

I was looking at the manuals on Rudis Cub Website. There is a manual for 1947 and 1949. Since mine is a 1948, which manual would be the best?


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