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Found the correct horn.

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Found the correct horn.

Postby Criswell » Thu Jan 30, 2014 10:16 am

Hooray for me! Just wanted to share my good luck find. I had mounted an old 6 volt horn that was on the shelf on my Cub, but I just found the correct one. Come spring I can make the change over to the right one. This is the one that I have on it now, the 44oz drink cup has the bottom cut out and it acts as a trumpet extension, makes it louder;

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And here is the new one that I just got;

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A nice N.O.S. Delco Remy horn. I was actually the one to open it up. The horn came with a couple of brackets to mount it the leads and a set of instructions. All I have to do now is make a copy of the original bracket and order the wire clips from the local Case/IH dealer and I'll be all correct.
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Re: Found the correct horn.

Postby Bob McCarty » Thu Jan 30, 2014 1:08 pm

Nice find. I'm sure there aren't many more NOS out there, if any.

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Re: Found the correct horn.

Postby Criswell » Thu Jan 30, 2014 3:13 pm

Bob McCarty wrote:Nice find. I'm sure there aren't many more NOS out there, if any.

Bob


Thanks, I was happy to find it. There are a lot more N.O.S. parts out there than most people would think or realize. The big thing is you just have to know your numbers, if they don't match or crossover, don't buy it. Close dosen't cut it, the number for the 6 volt horn is only one away from the 12 volt:

9000518 is 6 Volt
9000519 is 12 Volt
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Re: Found the correct horn.

Postby indy61 » Thu Jan 30, 2014 3:53 pm

There is also a 9000517 which is a 6 Volt low note horn. The 9000518 is a high note.

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Re: Found the correct horn.

Postby Redcub » Thu Jan 30, 2014 4:37 pm

Great find. Love the box it came in.
Does anyone have a nice pic of the horn button switch and its placement on the Cub? Please post, thanks.
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Re: Found the correct horn.

Postby Brandon Webb » Thu Jan 30, 2014 10:24 pm

Aren't the backets made onto the horn? Where'd you come up with those delco part numbers? I have a NOS 12 volt horn and the bracket is made on it. It has a 3 digit number stamped into it I can't remember what it is.

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Re: Found the correct horn.

Postby Barnyard » Thu Jan 30, 2014 11:27 pm

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Re: Found the correct horn.

Postby Criswell » Thu Jan 30, 2014 11:38 pm

Brandon Webb wrote:Aren't the backets made onto the horn? Where'd you come up with those delco part numbers?


The bracket for the horn is included in the box. There are two different brackets (different applications) plus terminal ends for the wiring.

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As for the Delco part numbers, the 900519 (12 Volt) is listed in the TC-37F parts manual on page 116. The only number listed for the 6 Volt is the original IH number, but that number can be crossed using the Delco Remy Master Parts List. The Delco Remy Master Parts List catalogs are massive and broken down by system. The ones that I have are 1936 through 1972, just the books for generators is in two volumes and is over 6,000 pages.
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Re: Found the correct horn.

Postby Brandon Webb » Fri Jan 31, 2014 7:22 am

Thanks all. Didn't realize that was a Delco number listed in the parts book I'd been checking for the IH number listed.

Is there 3 little numbers stamped into the NOS one of yours? I want to think mine was 313 or something close

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Re: Found the correct horn.

Postby indy61 » Fri Jan 31, 2014 8:23 am

Looks like there were two different Delco part numbers listed in the TC-37F parts book for the 12v horn. The early book show 9000519 and the later ones show 9000239. The 6v does not show a Delco # but does say "Low Pitch"

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Re: Found the correct horn.

Postby Criswell » Fri Jan 31, 2014 9:13 am

That "313" may be a "513" as in 9000513. The number 9000519 is for the horn horn package, complete. the horn itself would have a seperate part number. If the individual part was not sold or offered by itself the number number for the part would be listed, but labeled as NA for not available. You can see in the Delco lists that after about 1958, they did not update the 6volt parts at all and slowy there is less and less information on them as the yeras go through the catalog. As indy61 had said there was a low and a high note horn, Low-F and High-N, as well as medium-low and medium-high as well.
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Re: Found the correct horn.

Postby indy61 » Fri Jan 31, 2014 12:03 pm

Brandon Webb wrote:Thanks all. Didn't realize that was a Delco number listed in the parts book I'd been checking for the IH number listed.

Is there 3 little numbers stamped into the NOS one of yours? I want to think mine was 313 or something close


There is a 9000313 which is a 6v low note horn. I would guess that was the correct # for the Cub 6v horn.

http://catalog.remyinc.com/Product/Details/9000313

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Re: Found the correct horn.

Postby Criswell » Fri Jan 31, 2014 1:05 pm

The 9000313 and 9000314 were the numbers for the horns from Delco prior to the introduction of the 12 Volt system. These two numbers were made obsolete and replaced with 9000518 and 9000517. The new production horns, although the same as the earlier numbered ones would carry the new number. Ford did the same thing during the Model T and A era (even through the V-8), the suffix "AR" would be added to the end of the part number (i.e. A-3123-AR) and meant that is was for service and replacement, and that the part was still being manufactured, but did not fit the newer models.

The new 12 Volt horns had the new numbers of 9000513 and 9000514 (camaros, chevelles, corvettes, monza, etc), these numbers were evetnually superseded by new numbers because of a redesign of the part. The number posted by Barnyard (9000239) is a later number, more than likely with a different bracket design. The 9000313 and 314 numbers were listed as Obsolete by 1955/1956 and the new numbers 517/518 are listed as being for service (i.e. replacement).
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Re: Found the correct horn.

Postby ebax » Fri Jan 31, 2014 2:15 pm

One can learn a lot from old parts catalogs and interchange manuals. Back in the mid 1970s I worked at a wholesale auto parts warehouse. I always liked the sound of the four note horn that was a feature of Cadillacs. The warehouse had a lot of core batteries that still had juice in them and tested various horns from the shelves in various combinations. I discovered that the GM low tone horn and the Pene tone (penetration) high tone horn from the four note Cadillac setup sounded exactly like the old Fiamm air horns that were popular back then. The Delcos paired up required no compressor and were even louder than the air horns. I took the tiny beep sounding horn off my Honda Civic and replaced them with the two Delco units. It was very effective in traffic and got people's attention. Small car, loud horns!
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Re: Found the correct horn.

Postby Redcub » Sat May 16, 2020 12:52 am

This might be an older thread,... but for you that are looking to add a Delco Horn to your Cub just for laughs and parade bragging rights,...Image
Thanks to all the members that posted info on the P/N's, It was a huge help and I just found a Delco 6 volt low note, and a high note NOS horns.
The key was to look for P/N 9000313, and 9000314 and the superseded newer P/N's of 9000517 and 9000518 for the 6 volt models.

Now my wife can call me for dinner ! "Honk, Hoooonk, diner is ready !!" :hattip:


PS: I'm still waiting to see if anybody has a pic of the horn button and how it is mounted on the right side of the steering column. Thanks, if you have that pic for me. It's been 6 years and 5 months, I guess I should get this horn project done.
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