Re: Garden Planter

Sat Mar 01, 2014 7:58 pm

My Tractor Came With A Planter But No Runner. Over A Few Years I Was Able To Buy PileS Of Cub Stuff, Sell What I Didnt Need And Come Out With A Complete 174 Setup For Little Money. Its DefInetly Doable With.A Little patience

Re: Garden Planter

Sun Mar 02, 2014 7:10 am

Tom,
Some early morning thoughts here....

One thing to consider for Cub planter arrangements is to get as much info from the various implement catalogs, instructions, part lists that are on the forum here. That might give you a good idea of what you need, how it goes together, how to operate it.

Another thing is "The Vine" -- a sell/buy forum that's part of this overall forum. Write up what you want to buy, and see what happens. I never find that what I want to pay fro something equals the selling price. But then I maintain that the nickel candy bar was correctly priced, as was the 5 cent bottle of pop. Well, price demands have weaned me of those unhealthy snacks.

On hand pushed/pulled seeders, check out Johnny's Seeds online catalog, look at the various seeders -- 4 row seeders, even something called the Jang seeder. I was surprised that there's options out there not imagined. Looks like you could buy another Cub for the price of some of these things.

I've never planted with the Cub. Don't know what acreage would justify setting up the Cub for planting. My experience with home and small market gardening is that the push type seeder (watching the seeds come out or not come out) are somewhere between hand seeding and something mechanical like the Cub set up for the work. I'd be inclined to match my seeding options to my garden/field size.

With today's growing emphasis on organic gardening, the integration of many plant types into the row, companion planting...I find that I'm back to hand seeding, and enjoying it.

Re: Garden Planter

Sun Mar 02, 2014 9:53 am

I agree with you dick, my garden is 6,000 sq feet (50x120), and it would take longer to mount a planter than it does to plant it with the Earthway. I have done a lot of planting my hand, but age, 2 artificial hips, and a bad back have convinced me to do it other ways. Kind of like when I got my first cub, it came with a cultivator and I laid my garden out so I had room to use the cub to cultivate it. The first time though, i realized it took less time and work to till it with my rear tine tiller than to change from the belly mower to the cultivator and back again.

Re: Garden Planter

Sun Mar 02, 2014 12:18 pm

I agree it takes longer to put everything on than it does to plant but it is a hobby. An hour in the garage in the spring time setting up is welcome after a long cold winter of doing nothing cub related. Once you plant simply remove your seed hopper, 2 bolts to remove the runner and bolt your cultivators on and your ready for the rest of the gardening season. I agree the hand planters are very capable. I couldn't see gardening without cultivating and side dressing so if your going to do that your only a runner away from planting with a cub. If you don't cultivate your garden with a cub then it isn't big enough to worry about using a cub to plant with if that makes any sense. These tractors were designed to save time and labor, there really isn't much you can't configure a cub to do in the garden.
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Re: Garden Planter

Sun Mar 02, 2014 1:05 pm

Nice garden, Brandon.

Re: Garden Planter

Sun Mar 02, 2014 2:00 pm

I like the earthway planter. Works well for me. If you plant a variety, then extra plates is a plus. With that said, I also have a planter for my cub. Only gets used to plant a small pea patch, but I absolutely love doing it.

Re: Garden Planter

Sun Mar 02, 2014 4:07 pm

I thank everyone for your prospective, experience and advice. A couple months back I was looking for a set of Cub harrows and complaining about the price of the sets I'd saw on ebay when someone suggested I look on craigs list. I live in rural south Georgia where the towns are more like communities. Craigs list seemed like a long shot, but, worth a try. Two days later a man whom I'd known all my life responded to my ad with a set at what I thought was a fair price. The second best part, he lives only 12 miles from me. So I'll just back off buying a Cub planter for a while and expand my search. I'm probably gonna try one of those walk behind planters this year. Thanks again, Tom.

Re: Garden Planter

Mon Mar 03, 2014 3:05 am

My Earth way works good enough. Picked it up at a garage sale for $3! I don't need a planter for my Cub, but would love and need a side dresser.

Re: Garden Planter

Mon Mar 03, 2014 8:24 am

rexxon wrote:.

I use a 185 IH unit on a toolbar works great for larger areas,



If anyone wants a real planter for a Cub, this, or a JD 71, is the way to go, or maybe even an IH 184. They will plant a lot more accurately, the 185 or 71 will have disk openers which do a way better job than a runner planter. They are off the charts as far as a "neat" attachment goes, but there is no way I would ever spend $1000 or even $500 for a 172 or a 174 planter, let alone actually expect to plant with it.

Al

Re: Garden Planter

Mon Mar 03, 2014 8:58 am

Tom, what do you intend to plant with a Cub mounted planter?

Re: Garden Planter

Mon Mar 03, 2014 9:27 am

Super A wrote:
rexxon wrote:.

I use a 185 IH unit on a toolbar works great for larger areas,


If anyone wants a real planter for a Cub, this, or a JD 71, is the way to go, or maybe even an IH 184.


I have a single John Deere 71 that is set up for the Cub fast hitch. I used it for the first time last year and had a lot of problems with it skipping. I think the problem was that I did not have not enough pressure on the drive wheel. My Cub was missing it's depth control lever at the time. This spring I will use it on a Cub with a depth control. I will mostly use it to plant sweet corn.

Re: Garden Planter

Mon Mar 03, 2014 1:14 pm

I use my 185 planter on my 385 tractor and have two other units I would like to put on my 240 utility fast hitch toolbar but have not figured out how to set down pressure on the drive wheel, I have to crank good pressure on my 385 toplink to get it to work good. But once set that baby will set'em down as pretty as any thing you ever saw.

I plant almost everything with it, I even plant kale and rape with the beet plate and a special green plate. I know those plates say you need a special knocker and pawl but I rebuilt mine with the standard parts and it works great.

Re: Garden Planter

Mon Mar 03, 2014 2:22 pm

rexxon wrote:
I plant almost everything with it, I even plant kale and rape with the beet plate and a special green plate. I know those plates say you need a special knocker and pawl but I rebuilt mine with the standard parts and it works great.


I've got two 185 units, and corn and bean plates. I want to get some sorghum and other plates for it. I wondered about the special knockers and stuff.

Al

Re: Garden Planter

Tue Mar 04, 2014 10:02 am

I use both...And happy with both...Depends on what and how much I'm planting....A Cub planter is nice,,,but costly....Kevin

Re: Garden Planter

Thu Mar 06, 2014 11:09 pm

I guess I got lucky. I bought 2 eathway walkbehinds, with full plates for each, and the sdie dressers. I got both of them for 5 dollars a peice. Ive used them for 3 years now and they work great. The only bad thing is with small seends like cabbage seeds, they can wirk themselves behind the seed plate and get ground up. But for corn or beans, they are the best.