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Greetings from Southern Maine

Posted: Thu May 15, 2014 10:51 pm
by Thehiwayman
Hello everyone

thank you for letting me join the community...

My first Farmall is a Cub and I'm so happy to give it a new home in Maine...My cub looks to have spent all its life in NH, now its here in Maine...

I have always had affections for farmalls since I got an "H" that was sitting in a field for more than 20 years running after throwing miscalanious handfulls of internal engine parts and gallons of mystery oil at it... along with some pounding with hammers and a little cursing, punished by bloody knuckles I learned to admire its simplicity of design in some respects, but extreme robustness and genious design in other ways...

its been said over and over but its rare these days to see the thought and quality that went into these tractors...No! they do not build things like they used to, except for rare instances it seems sadly. A friend of mine just bought a 47 "M" and the eighty plus year old owner emphaticly told my friend "this tractor will still be running when your my age!" you know he is probably right.

I plan on using my cub in my small garden and maintaining my looooong dirt drive way... I have already spruced up her appearance and fabricated a box scraper blade...tonight was its first real job at its new home and she performed perfectly...

yes, I did see the post about naming cubs and yup I do have a habit of naming all my vehicles even my 1941 Dodge Militay Power Wagon :wink: to me, mechanical things have a soul and I talk to them quite frequenly...Just being honest LOL

I already have a few questions about the real age of my cub I was told it was a 51 but serial number says its a 47...here is something else it appears to have previous wardrobe of "WHITE" I dont know what I have now but I'm wondering if it was a demonstration model...
I can pose these questions elsewhere though because I know this is the Intro page...

so I'll stop rambling now...

I look forward to sharing knowledge and chatting here

Thanks Tim

Re: Greetings from Southern Maine

Posted: Fri May 16, 2014 5:12 am
by randallc
Well, welcome to the forum from Arkansas. It seems sure you will enjoy your cub. Keep thinking I might get up into Maine some day to see all the beauty I hear about. But I guess the green season is short and the drive back to Arkansas long. So hold things down up there.

Re: Greetings from Southern Maine

Posted: Fri May 16, 2014 6:17 am
by Mr E
Welcome to the forum from Florida. You will enjoy the good folks on here.


@Randall - I have spend a good bit of time in Maine. Well worth a visit. You and I are known for making those long trips, pal. :lol:

Re: Greetings from Southern Maine

Posted: Fri May 16, 2014 7:16 am
by Stanton
Welcome to the forum!

Compare your serial number to this site (courtesy of TM Tractor) for the age: http://www.tmtractor.com/id/id_002.htm

One word about Cubs: major parts, like the front bolster, engine, tranny, etc. may have been replaced along its life. So, unless you know that the bolster and serial plate are original to the Cub, you'll only be dating the front bolster. You can also ascertain dates from the casting codes in each of the major cast iron pieces. They may be found here (courtesy of TM Tractor): http://www.tmtractor.com/id/id_004.htm

Gathering several casting dates will help determine a pretty good idea of your tractor's age.

Hope this helps.

Re: Greetings from Southern Maine

Posted: Fri May 16, 2014 7:36 am
by Barnyard
Welcome to the group. You have probably figured out by now that this is the best place to go for Cub info. Stanton has you pretty well covered as to how to find the year of your Cub.

Re: Greetings from Southern Maine

Posted: Fri May 16, 2014 8:04 am
by Thehiwayman
Thank you for the welcomes,

In regards to my serial number here is what is on the tag...

104516

1800

so the 104516 number would indicate a 47 what is the 1800 number? it is a different type of stamping and looks like it may have been added later?

the white paint under the red has me curious as well...did IH use a white primer possibly?
this certainly looks like paint to me...

here is another clue in the I-T manual I was reading about clutch adjustment and "external adjustment on later model cubs" was mentioned... my cub has the 5/8 head bolt and rotating plate to take up free play? is that a dead give away that this is a later model cub... I was really hoping it was a 47 but if it was a demonstration cub that would be cool to...

I am going to gather more engine and frame numbers as well and start comparing...

Thanks guys and gals

Re: Greetings from Southern Maine

Posted: Fri May 16, 2014 8:14 am
by Barnyard
Tim, the 104516 actually indicates it is a 1950 in the demo range.

The white paint indicates there is a very little doubt it is a demo.

The 1800 is the engine rpm.

Re: Greetings from Southern Maine

Posted: Fri May 16, 2014 8:15 am
by Stanton
You're fast, Barnyard... :coffee:

Re: Greetings from Southern Maine

Posted: Fri May 16, 2014 8:18 am
by Barnyard
Stanton wrote:You're fast, Barnyard... :coffee:

It's raining here so no mowing or plowing to do. I should be out in the shop or barn getting ready for the Bash instead of in here. :lol:

Re: Greetings from Southern Maine

Posted: Fri May 16, 2014 8:47 am
by Thehiwayman
well then there are a bunch of "T's" on the rivet plates on this old girl

block,transmission,final drives,hydraulic pump etc....

so thats telling me 1950

I'm kind of bummed its not the first year of the cub However now that I'm poking around there is white paint everywhere???

so do I have a demonstration cub???

the serial number plate is a mystey to me I looked on the ID web site and that plate looks nothing like any listed on the website
I see the 1800 was indicating the rpms but there is no other wrinting on the plate I have its just the stamps in an aluminium plate strange...

Re: Greetings from Southern Maine

Posted: Fri May 16, 2014 8:51 am
by Barnyard
We need a pic of your plate to see what it looks like. With all that white paint and if the serial plate is correct, yes it is a demo.

Since this is getting more into a Cub discussion than it is an introduction I will move this thread to the Cub forum so more members can chime in.

Re: Greetings from Southern Maine

Posted: Fri May 16, 2014 9:22 am
by Jim Becker
Thehiwayman wrote:the serial number plate is a mystey to me I looked on the ID web site and that plate looks nothing like any listed on the website
I see the 1800 was indicating the rpms but there is no other wrinting on the plate I have its just the stamps in an aluminium plate strange...

The serial number and the engine RPM were the only markings that were originally stamped into the plate. All other markings were simply silk screened in black. They have worn off over the years leaving you with only the stamped numbers. If you want to "restore" your serial plate, one of our members (tst) sells stickers with the missing lettering that go over the existing plate.

Re: Greetings from Southern Maine

Posted: Fri May 16, 2014 10:10 am
by Eugene
Stanton wrote:You can also ascertain dates from the casting codes in each of the major cast iron pieces.
Welcome.

As Stanton indicates, the majority of the tractor may be other than what is indicated by the bolster serial number plate. My tractor, with a 1948 serial number plate, was constructed from various tractors, with parts dating from 1947 to 1955.

Re: Greetings from Southern Maine

Posted: Fri May 16, 2014 10:49 am
by Barnyard
With the 104516 serial number, T's all over the cast codes and the white paint under the red it is safe to say you have the original bolster as well as all the other cast parts.

Re: Greetings from Southern Maine

Posted: Fri May 16, 2014 4:13 pm
by Thehiwayman
Ok thanks again,

sorry to muddy the waters with these questions in my introduction...

should have known better...

I post any further questions and pics in the proper place I'll go look for the moved thread



Tim